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Tony Z
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Post subject: Re: TYpe 1 into type 3  Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:55 pm |
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Location: Working in Europe or playing in Cape Town
What model do you have?: 1969 2332cc Bug
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Chris
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Post subject: Re: TYpe 1 into type 3 Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:57 pm |
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Location: Port Elizabeth
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It can be done,but you need the cooling pan and housing that fits on the front of the engine as well as the lower manifold and carbs.The altenator and stand has to be removed and a Type 3 setup fitted.
It is a big schlep and easier to source a Type 3 or Type 4 engine.
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YvaneS
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Post subject: Re: TYpe 1 into type 3 Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:10 pm |
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Location: PTA and EastRand
What model do you have?: 1
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Quote: type 1 motor fits straight in, but you have to remove the "engine cover" of the car.
You also then have no rear boot space, and a lot more noise in the car.
Used my fasty like that for a few months! Ok I understand that the engine will be sticking out and will be sitting in the boot...but... How will cooling be affected if you do things like this?
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Post subject: Re: TYpe 1 into type 3 Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:18 pm |
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:41 am
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Location: Pretoria
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I'll be getting two type 3 sub assemblies with tin and carbs sometime in the next 4 months, for not too much of money, as you know...
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Tony Z
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Post subject: Re: TYpe 1 into type 3 Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:18 pm |
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Location: Working in Europe or playing in Cape Town
What model do you have?: 1969 2332cc Bug
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just give it cool air and it should be OK - and make sure the hot air exits under the cooling tin
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Post subject: Re: TYpe 1 into type 3 Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:30 am |
Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:16 am
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Location: Melkbosstrand/Papua Barat
What model do you have?: Type 1, 21b, 34, 316
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Hanging a T1 enging into a T3 will not work! Yes, it fits and mechanically it will go round, but you will not have the cooling. You will need to fabricate the air seperation plates that are present on a Beetle (creating the air inlet plenum seperate from the outlet), otherwise your T1 engine will simply ingest all the hot air and sharpishly overheat...
The cooling systems are vastly different. I also don't think you can use a T1 sub assembly for a T3 because you won't have a place to mount the crank driven fan.
Furthermore, If you don't have the engine hanger bar as in the newer T3s, but instead you have the rear engine mount immediately under your chest as you lean over the motor, you will damage the car driving it like that, the removable gearbox horns as well as the body mounts onto the shock towers. You should not drive a car with incomplete engine mounts, basically.
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Post subject: Re: TYpe 1 into type 3 Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:56 am |
Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:24 am
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Location: Johannesburg
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If the block is not a universal one or an original T3 you are screwed beacuse you will not have the opening for the oil dipstick, that is the only major diff. in a T1 & T3 sub assembly. It I were you I would take the T4 but there is still a little work involved.
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Post subject: Re: TYpe 1 into type 3 Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:50 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:04 pm
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Location: PTA and EastRand
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Quote: Isnt the kombi engine like a type 4?
I dont really know much about the kombi engine... Can anyone tell me more? Would this be ideal to fit into a notch? Power-wise, is that engine Tunable to make high power?
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Post subject: Re: TYpe 1 into type 3 Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:54 pm |
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Location: Pretoria
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Dirk
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Post subject: Re: TYpe 1 into type 3 Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:03 am |
Joined: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:27 pm
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Location: Western Cape
What model do you have?: Beetle, Notch, Fasty
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Back when we had my grandfather's fastback, the attempt was made.
Suffice it to say that doing this conversion, when all the parts and engineering is easily available,
will cost in the order of about 4 times the price of an overhauled Type 3 engine.
Yes, with enough money and effort it can be done... but is it worth it?
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