Split bus front Wide 5 Disc brake kit

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Re: Split bus front Wide 5 Disc brake kit

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Ron&Gill wrote:I cannot stress enough though that without a brake booster, it really doesn't make too much of a difference over a correctly set up set of standard drums. Pedal action is no lighter and stopping distance, well, I don't know because I got the bus with late bay discs on,Think the Bay calipers need alot of flow to make them clamp :?: but it wasn't great by any stretch of the imagination. Gill's bus brakes like a modern car. Light on the pedal, stops on a dime and gives you 9c change.

I think you (Bugger) should think of developing a easy, cheap method of adding a mechanically actuated brake booster, with minimum vacuum hose length, The Microbus boosters sit right in front by the M/C and it uses a Plastic pipe not to have the effect Retrovan described of the pipe getting sucked close using readily available parts. Or maybe a hydraulically operated one through two MC's or something. Useable with drums or discs. Once ACVWSA members get a taste of that, you'll be in for business big time. I would buy it and instal it on my buggy, and in the Ghia, and the Notch.
I will start looking in to all different Expensive Stuff that we need to buy from the States or UK for our Aircooleds as I have done the Adjustable Straight axle conversion kit now.The next one was Brakes for the splitties
I have driven the Other Splitty that We did the Wildood brakes on and it stopped very well with the 19MM Type 2 M/C it had a slight Spungy feeling but worked very well
You can fit the Golf 2 M/C to a split bus as it gives you the twin leading for safety or the Longer Bay window one with the Reservoir above it
I know of a In Line booster that might still be available that can be used in our rides so will have a look in to that aswell
But As Calooker mentioned of the race cars it is to get brake feel better but in your bus I agree one wants to press the Brake pedal Layzingly and know you are going to stop with Change :lol:


As far as I understand, the trick is in the fact that the booster has to be at the back, near the engine, so the vacuum hose is short. But you have lots of trucking experience you will know this better than me. On the Trucks you have a Air compressor that supply different Air tanks with air to supply various Brake boosters but they work on a different principal I think we are looking at here so Must see what Vacuum assistance we can implement Maybe it makes no difference, maybe a vacuum reservoir is the answer, don't know. Just bouncing ideas around.
Keep em Ideas comming so we can play around with them :hangloose:


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Re: Split bus front Wide 5 Disc brake kit

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This the the master cylinder conversion the Airkewld supply and use. Price $175.00
More info here: http://airkewld.com/index.php?option=co ... 215&id=133
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This is their front disc brake kit. Price $925.00
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This is their rear disc brake kit. Price $795.00
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Re: Split bus front Wide 5 Disc brake kit

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hitlers revenge wrote:Hey Ron

Where did you connect the booster to get air from. I see on a twin port where it goes, but how about a single port beetle motor.
Had holes drilled into the two upright manifolds on numbers 1 and 3 cylinders, connected them together with a T and onto the booster. I asked about "connecting" the two "spaces" in the inlet manifolds together and if that would affect the running of the engin, but I was told it would not affect it. It didn't so's I could notice anyway.

Thanks Muds, for sharing your experience. If anybody still wonders what a brake booster is for, try that... :lol:

Bugger: Gill's bus has a long baywindow MC.

Stutz, that's a good looking kit, but it doesn't look like a wide five stud pattern...
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Re: Split bus front Wide 5 Disc brake kit

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If you have to have a booster, then look at the old Alfa's, Junior, Alfeta and a few others they use remote mounted boosters, an idea maybe?
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Re: Split bus front Wide 5 Disc brake kit

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calooker wrote:If you have to have a booster, then look at the old Alfa's, Junior, Alfeta and a few others they use remote mounted boosters, an idea maybe?
Yes, some BMWs do also. I went that route initially, but later opted for the one from T2D. That might have been a mistake, because the supplier cannot be traced, I certainly cannot find them on the Internet, I can the company, but not the product. I was looking for the hook-up drawing, and the lack of it caused me to plumb it in the wrong way round. It was counter-intuitive... :lol: :lol:
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Re: Split bus front Wide 5 Disc brake kit

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Stütz wrote:This the the master cylinder conversion the Airkewld supply and use. Price $175.00
More info here: http://airkewld.com/index.php?option=co ... 215&id=133
Airkewld MC.jpg
This is their front disc brake kit. Price $925.00
Front Disc Kit.jpg
Install.jpg
This is their rear disc brake kit. Price $795.00
Rear Disc Kit.jpg
That M/C looks like a Bay bus with a spacer on

Here is the Wilwood jit on the Split bus I fitted the Rotary turbo in and it uses a std Split M/C and I had no problem stopping
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Re: Split bus front Wide 5 Disc brake kit

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Would work on beetle , want to go to std rim and already done the golf brake conversion
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Re: Split bus front Wide 5 Disc brake kit

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62vwbeetle wrote:Would work on beetle , want to go to std rim and already done the golf brake conversion
Can Supply Reversed Adapters to go std Beetle rims
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Re: Split bus front Wide 5 Disc brake kit

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Sweet we talk tomorrow
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