Retrovans MeFusco Beetle Truck Project

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Thanks Tony,

Yes the pedal moves freely, and he changes on the blocks, not sure what he will do on the ground, will have to test it still

also thought of a new sheathed cable but that is what I have realistically with the two Bowden tubes.

The load is increasing the drag around the 180 Deg of the cable.

So the final solution would be to fit two pulleys to take the cable around the 180 Deg. without drag.

That will definitely work.

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Maybe make an intermediate lever to get around 180 degree issue. Centre pivot of this lever fixed near nosecone.
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Thanks Dawie,

That will work, but the same issue I have is the same theory as for the pulleys.

That is that there will be no cable resistance between peddle and clutch resulting in a heavy shudder.

this is a thing I would have to build in by keeping one Bowden tube regardless which way I go.

But my thinking is that should I not have sufficient travel with my one pulley system, I can always increase the lever length of my peddle

So now 1st I have to get the wheels on the ground and test the release of the clutch the way it is.

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Thought you could still retain a bowden cable on pedal side, even if it is a short one?

Otherwise the place where fulcrum of intermediate lever is fixed... Fix that to neither transmission nor chassis, but halfway.
Make another bracket where one end is fixed to chassis and other end to chassis. Then halfway on that bracket you mount the shaft where fulcrom point of intermediate lever fits. Or a position at similar ratio if the lever is not 1:1 ratio. One end of bracket should be able to slide perpendicular to cable angle to allow for movement between chassis and powertrain.
This way movement between chassis and powertrain, (as seen by the clutch), will be cancelled out.

Or is this becoming a bit complicated?
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Dawie wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:59 pm ......Or is this becoming a bit complicated?
:lol: :lol:

No , This is the joy of all the if's, why's, when's,then's, and try's that make this build such a pleasure.

There is no book for all the fun i am having and it keeps the mind fresh.

Yes we will try these option but only after I have looked into this one pulley system I have now,

Think it will be fine as we have added to the lever / cable end of the peddle,

so we should have the travel required.

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Morning guys and thanks for the update.
I must however get this off my chest and hopefully teach something. I am by no means a teacher or english expert, but have noticed the incorrect word used for pedal.
I copied the below from google. :hiding: :hangloose:
Please don't take it personally, not intended to offend anyone.

peddle

verb: peddle; 3rd person present: peddles; past tense: peddled; past participle: peddled; gerund or present participle: peddling

try to sell (something, especially small goods) by going from place to place.
"he peddled printing materials around the country"

sell (an illegal drug or stolen item).
"he was arrested after trying to peddle guns"
promote (an idea or view) persistently or widely.
"he criticized his fellow candidate for peddling risky ideas"

peddle is sometimes confused with pedal

Pedal
noun: pedal; plural noun: pedals; noun: sustaining pedal; plural noun: sustaining pedals

1. each of a pair of foot-operated levers used for powering a bicycle or other vehicle propelled by the legs.
2. a foot-operated throttle, brake, or clutch control in a motor vehicle. "a brake pedal"
3. each of a set of two or three levers on a piano, particularly (also sustaining pedal ) one which, when depressed, prevents the dampers from stopping the sound when the keys are released. The second is the soft pedal ; a third, if present, produces either selective sustaining or complete muffling of the tone.
a foot-operated lever on other musical instruments, such as an organ.
a foot-operated device for producing a sound effect on an electric guitar.
short for pedal note.

verb: pedal; 3rd person present: pedals; past tense: pedalled; past participle: pedalled; gerund or present participle: pedalling; past tense: pedaled; past participle: pedaled; gerund or present participle: pedaling

1. move by working the pedals of a bicycle. "they pedalled along the canal towpath"
move (a bicycle) by working its pedals. "she was pedalling a bicycle around town"
work the pedals of a bicycle. "he was coming down the path on his bike, pedalling hard"
2. use the pedals of a piano, organ, or other keyboard instrument, especially in a particular style. "the organist pedalled furiously, her feet travelling musical miles"
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Hi Alan,

Last I looked this was a VW aircooled forum celebrating the German model of car. :D

I am sure it was not the Windsor university of advanced English class 101 :shock:

So I am sure that the odd German misuse of the written word in English would be acceptable. :roll:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

No offense taken ..... :wink:

But keep in mind that this is a multi nation utilized forum and the odd slip-up should be over looked. :D

Just to end off, my English teacher told to me them English I spoke by your self is improving plenty

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:TIC:

Herman

PS, Spell check is mostly to blame as we click on "fix" but do not look what we have selected.
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:lol: :lol:
Ja, spellcheck does often cause issues. :flash: :drunks: :drunks:
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Did you know that the first word in the English Oxford Dictionary is not even English.... Aardvark
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Is it correct to say "I is" ?
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My English second language teacher said that one should always say "I am".

So i asked if it is indeed correct to say 'I am a pronoun". Or I am a letter.
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Dawie wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:24 am Is it correct to say "I is" ?
I is the ninth letter of the alphabet. That looks correct to me.
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Hey Dude !!

I is what ever it wants to be man....

As long as its cool man, you know what I say my chine..... :hangloose:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Any news about the clutch?
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Dawie wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 11:01 am Any news about the clutch?

Hi Dawie,

The Clutch seams to work great with the wheel, as you may remember I increased the length of the cable end lever some time ago

This has given me the travel that works.

Yes I have only tested on the blocks as well as in and out of the workshop and drive way.

BUT

The brakes are kicking my ASS.

Have changed to the BMW MC and booster, and get a firm peddle with engine off

But when starting the engine, and standing on the peddle, it sinks down to the floor.

Now it could be that the MC is shot as it came out a crashed BMW so that may have been the cause of the prang

Will be looking to fit new rubbers this weekend and if this works we have a moving MeFusco.

Here's hoping.

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