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1500 MOTOR BACKFIRE

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My mechanic has been fighting with the 1500cc motor on the Karmann Ghia for a while now, and he's about to give up.....

Please help with any advice.

Motor starts easily and idles nicely, rev's smoothly up to about 1500rpm and then starts backfiring.
He's checked tappets, timing, played with different jets, checked spark plugs and leads, condensor and coil, fuel line etc etc
Also swapped over everything from my Beetle onto KG and still the same..


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Re: 1500 MOTOR BACKFIRE

Post by Cyndi Kritzinger »

AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, A BACKFIRE IS NORMALLY CAUSED BY A TIMING ISSUE BUT I'M NO MECHANIC.
I'LL SPEAK WITH A GOOD MATE OF MINE WHO IS AN OLD SCHOOL VW GUY (AND SERVICE CENTRE OWNER) AND SEE IF HE'S ANY THE WISER.
NO DOUBT THE BOFF'S ON THIS FORUM WILL SORT YOU OUT WITH THEIR PEARLS OF WISDOM.

YOU MAY JUST HAVE TO WAIT FOR THEM TO GET HOME FROM WORK.

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Re: 1500 MOTOR BACKFIRE

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check for vacuum leaks
where is he setting the timing?
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Re: 1500 MOTOR BACKFIRE

Post by retrovan »

Vacuum pipe is off the dizzy, or sucking air,

manifolds loose and sucking air,

firing order incorrect , make sure you count it clockwise 1-4-3-2

leaking tappets

Crack in head

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Re: 1500 MOTOR BACKFIRE

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Perhaps advance the distributor a couple of degrees and see if the situation improves?
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Re: 1500 MOTOR BACKFIRE

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Thanks for the responses, we will check everything by process of elimination and give feedback.
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Re: 1500 MOTOR BACKFIRE

Post by Dawie »

Is it backfiring out of the exhaust, sounding like gunshots? Or more like a coughing through carb?
Staying Aircooled is so much nicer.
Do'nt assume anything- (While doing fault-finding).
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Re: 1500 MOTOR BACKFIRE

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I agree with retrovan and TonyZ, this sounds like a vacuum leak at the manifold. And don't assume it's not the condensor just because you already replaced one. Try another, known good one.
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Re: 1500 MOTOR BACKFIRE

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What Dawie is asking......is it farting or coughing!!๐Ÿค”

Big!!!! Difference ? ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†

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Re: 1500 MOTOR BACKFIRE

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Don't believe its only something external. You could have internal issues. Leaking valves or cracks as Herman mentioned.

I had a motor in a bus that I purchased last year, that continuously just kept popping out the carb when the revs picked up. What had me stumped is that its compression was 100%, so the valves wren leaking. I eventually discovered the camshaft was completely worn away on 2 lobes and virtually couldn't open the valves...
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Re: 1500 MOTOR BACKFIRE

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sean wrote: โ†‘Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:06 am Don't believe its only something external. You could have internal issues. Leaking valves or cracks as Herman mentioned.

I had a motor in a bus that I purchased last year, that continuously just kept popping out the carb when the revs picked up. What had me stumped is that its compression was 100%, so the valves wren leaking. I eventually discovered the camshaft was completely worn away on 2 lobes and virtually couldn't open the valves...
My mechanic believes you might be on to something here, thanks Sean.
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Re: 1500 MOTOR BACKFIRE

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Jack Nel wrote: โ†‘Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:49 am
sean wrote: โ†‘Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:06 am Don't believe its only something external. You could have internal issues. Leaking valves or cracks as Herman mentioned.

I had a motor in a bus that I purchased last year, that continuously just kept popping out the carb when the revs picked up. What had me stumped is that its compression was 100%, so the valves wren leaking. I eventually discovered the camshaft was completely worn away on 2 lobes and virtually couldn't open the valves...
My mechanic believes you might be on to something here, thanks Sean.
Remove the tappet covers and start the motor. Check the rockers if they all have full lift.
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