Speedster Electrical Gremlins
- Mustang Sally
- Oil Leak
- Posts: 96
- Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:14 am
- What model do you have?: Porsche 356 replica
- Location: West Rand
- Has thanked: 7 times
- Been thanked: 2 times
Speedster Electrical Gremlins
Hi Guys, some advice please!
We've converted to electronic ignition and I have been having some weird electrical hassles. Started with replacing coil (twice) as well as the trigger(control) unit (twice!).
All of those were Midas no-name brand components and I thought the Chinese kids putting them together probably just had bad days so replaced both coil and trigger unit with Beru's. Initially went like the clappers - problem solved! Or so I thought...
Now again missing at certain revs, pulling like sh*t and very uneven idling. This has now got me worried that perhaps my engine bay is running too hot? Has anybody else come across this problem? Thoughts???
We've converted to electronic ignition and I have been having some weird electrical hassles. Started with replacing coil (twice) as well as the trigger(control) unit (twice!).
All of those were Midas no-name brand components and I thought the Chinese kids putting them together probably just had bad days so replaced both coil and trigger unit with Beru's. Initially went like the clappers - problem solved! Or so I thought...
Now again missing at certain revs, pulling like sh*t and very uneven idling. This has now got me worried that perhaps my engine bay is running too hot? Has anybody else come across this problem? Thoughts???
- acpaterson
- Carburettor
- Posts: 1960
- Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:50 pm
- What model do you have?: Winston, a 74 Bay
- Location: Parklands, Cape Town
- Has thanked: 80 times
- Been thanked: 131 times
- Contact:
Re: Speedster Electrical Gremlins
I cannot offer any input as I don't have the required experience, but pls keep us updated on the process and results buddy.
But, saying it DID work, and then deteriorates, could there be a problem with your Generator or recharge circuit? Possibly damaging new electronic ignition?
But, saying it DID work, and then deteriorates, could there be a problem with your Generator or recharge circuit? Possibly damaging new electronic ignition?
- arnocill
- Oil Pump
- Posts: 213
- Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:53 pm
- What model do you have?: beamish buggy
- Location: Brackenfell cpt
- Has thanked: 6 times
- Been thanked: 4 times
Re: Speedster Electrical Gremlins
Buy a genuine bosch coil from golf at a scrapyard. They very seldom give any problems and are a far better bet than any replacement coil.
- Tony Z
- Donor
- Posts: 14994
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:33 am
- What model do you have?: 2.3L 69; 1302; P/Van
- Location: Klipheuwel (near Durbanville), Cape Town or working at sea
- Has thanked: 191 times
- Been thanked: 487 times
Re: Speedster Electrical Gremlins
its not the engine bay that is killing the units, its the current passing through them and the heat from being inside a closed dizzy
it might help to drill a hole in the dizzy cap to add ventialtion
it will help to check that your coil has enough internal resistance, like a a stock beetles coil
it will help to add a small resistor to your coil
it will help if you use a spark box like MSD as the trigger unit will now not carry any current
cheapest and best option is to go back to stock points
it might help to drill a hole in the dizzy cap to add ventialtion
it will help to check that your coil has enough internal resistance, like a a stock beetles coil
it will help to add a small resistor to your coil
it will help if you use a spark box like MSD as the trigger unit will now not carry any current
cheapest and best option is to go back to stock points
ANGRRR
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=14775
1302S
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=33521
Panel Van
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopic.php?p=288723
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=14775
1302S
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=33521
Panel Van
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopic.php?p=288723
vader wrote: The Force is strong with you young Sith Lord Z!
- Tony Z
- Donor
- Posts: 14994
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:33 am
- What model do you have?: 2.3L 69; 1302; P/Van
- Location: Klipheuwel (near Durbanville), Cape Town or working at sea
- Has thanked: 191 times
- Been thanked: 487 times
Re: Speedster Electrical Gremlins
those are electronic ignition coilsarnocill wrote:Buy a genuine bosch coil from golf at a scrapyard. They very seldom give any problems and are a far better bet than any replacement coil.
will overload the pickup and burn it out
Remember the "electronic conversion" units that you put in the dizzy do not give you electronic ignition. It replaces the mechanical points with an electronic switch - thats all. The same rules apply.
ANGRRR
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=14775
1302S
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=33521
Panel Van
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopic.php?p=288723
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=14775
1302S
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=33521
Panel Van
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopic.php?p=288723
vader wrote: The Force is strong with you young Sith Lord Z!
- Dazz
- Oil Cooler
- Posts: 390
- Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:08 pm
- What model do you have?: T3 Syncro
- Location: Centurion
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Been thanked: 4 times
Re: Speedster Electrical Gremlins
I have had similar results when my porcelain resistor cracked due to old age once. perhaps look at that?
Measure twice CUTonce.
1975 Kombie
1979 Kombie
W203 C320 CDI
'68 Austin Cambridge A60
Looking for a kombi project
1975 Kombie
1979 Kombie
W203 C320 CDI
'68 Austin Cambridge A60
Looking for a kombi project
- Mustang Sally
- Oil Leak
- Posts: 96
- Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:14 am
- What model do you have?: Porsche 356 replica
- Location: West Rand
- Has thanked: 7 times
- Been thanked: 2 times
Re: Speedster Electrical Gremlins
Decided to start with basics. She was due for a service so did all that and found no 1 spark plug all fouled up. Go figure!
Set of new plugs as well as new plug leads and she was as thankful as that leather assed chic with a new credit card! Pulled like a cart horse....for half a day.
Now missing worse than ever between 1000 and 2000 revs. Idles fine and if you manage to get over 2000 revs, reasonable. In between - up to sh*t.
Given up now and dropped her off with a buddy of mine who understands about positive and negative wires. Hope like hell he can figure this out. Watch this space...
Set of new plugs as well as new plug leads and she was as thankful as that leather assed chic with a new credit card! Pulled like a cart horse....for half a day.
Now missing worse than ever between 1000 and 2000 revs. Idles fine and if you manage to get over 2000 revs, reasonable. In between - up to sh*t.
Given up now and dropped her off with a buddy of mine who understands about positive and negative wires. Hope like hell he can figure this out. Watch this space...
-
- Advertiser
- Posts: 7947
- Joined: Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:25 pm
- What model do you have?: a Few Models
- Facebook: Pierre Bugger Eksteen
- Location: Johannesbirg
- Has thanked: 18 times
- Been thanked: 58 times
Re: Speedster Electrical Gremlins
Remove the same plug position and have a look at the Plug to see if it is not fouled up again that will give indication possible problems but spark plugs today is not good Quality
- Tony Z
- Donor
- Posts: 14994
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:33 am
- What model do you have?: 2.3L 69; 1302; P/Van
- Location: Klipheuwel (near Durbanville), Cape Town or working at sea
- Has thanked: 191 times
- Been thanked: 487 times
Re: Speedster Electrical Gremlins
are you using unleaded fuel?
ANGRRR
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=14775
1302S
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=33521
Panel Van
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopic.php?p=288723
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=14775
1302S
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=33521
Panel Van
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopic.php?p=288723
vader wrote: The Force is strong with you young Sith Lord Z!
- Mustang Sally
- Oil Leak
- Posts: 96
- Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:14 am
- What model do you have?: Porsche 356 replica
- Location: West Rand
- Has thanked: 7 times
- Been thanked: 2 times
- retrovan
- Donor
- Posts: 8709
- Joined: Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:51 pm
- What model do you have?: 52T1,68FB,72Bay,75FL
- Location: Eich! no, in Jefferys Bay
- Has thanked: 421 times
- Been thanked: 539 times
- Contact:
Re: Speedster Electrical Gremlins
Mustang Sally wrote:No unleaded fuel, only putting in Red Petrol.
That be your problem right there.
You can run any aircooled on Unleaded, as they all have hard valve seats inserts in their heads.
Also check compression, you may be bringing oil up from the sump, past the rings. (Broken oil ring)
Is she smoking when running, or when you decelerate.
Have you got the correct plugs in the engine.
Herman
1952 Split Beetle 1835cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
- Tony Z
- Donor
- Posts: 14994
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:33 am
- What model do you have?: 2.3L 69; 1302; P/Van
- Location: Klipheuwel (near Durbanville), Cape Town or working at sea
- Has thanked: 191 times
- Been thanked: 487 times
Re: Speedster Electrical Gremlins
I suspect that could be your issue.
Put in new plugs and unleaded fuel and see if that helps
LRP is known for fouling up spark plugs
Put in new plugs and unleaded fuel and see if that helps
LRP is known for fouling up spark plugs
ANGRRR
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=14775
1302S
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=33521
Panel Van
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopic.php?p=288723
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=14775
1302S
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=33521
Panel Van
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopic.php?p=288723
vader wrote: The Force is strong with you young Sith Lord Z!
- Mustang Sally
- Oil Leak
- Posts: 96
- Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:14 am
- What model do you have?: Porsche 356 replica
- Location: West Rand
- Has thanked: 7 times
- Been thanked: 2 times
Re: Speedster Electrical Gremlins
Thanks guys! Never realised she could run on Unleaded. Will definitely try it out and let you know.
- acpaterson
- Carburettor
- Posts: 1960
- Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:50 pm
- What model do you have?: Winston, a 74 Bay
- Location: Parklands, Cape Town
- Has thanked: 80 times
- Been thanked: 131 times
- Contact:
Re: Speedster Electrical Gremlins
I suggest you change the 'sex" of your Porsche.. Can you not see how tempramental "she's" are now??? Mine are only boys now, helps for oyu to establish a good working relationship with them.
- Dazz
- Oil Cooler
- Posts: 390
- Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:08 pm
- What model do you have?: T3 Syncro
- Location: Centurion
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Been thanked: 4 times
Re: Speedster Electrical Gremlins
acpaterson wrote:I suggest you change the 'sex" of your Porsche.. Can you not see how tempramental "she's" are now??? Mine are only boys now, helps for oyu to establish a good working relationship with them.
Measure twice CUTonce.
1975 Kombie
1979 Kombie
W203 C320 CDI
'68 Austin Cambridge A60
Looking for a kombi project
1975 Kombie
1979 Kombie
W203 C320 CDI
'68 Austin Cambridge A60
Looking for a kombi project