The Holy Grail found: VWSA paint & upholstery codes

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Re: The Holy Grail found: VWSA paint & upholstery codes

Post by Tony Z » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:09 am

Great idea Eben.
I tried to make it a sticky, but I dont think I have the rights to do so.



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Re: The Holy Grail found: VWSA paint & upholstery codes

Post by brianj » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:37 pm

My president grey / Vasco fasty thanks you.. Always thought it was mouse grey or slate gray but now we know!

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Re: The Holy Grail found: VWSA paint & upholstery codes

Post by 73type2 » Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:03 pm

The paint code / trim plate on my '71 1300 Beetle says 06/57, which I assume would be paint/trim. The 06 indicates GOLD according to the table, but the colour of my car is a light green, which I'm sure is the original colour. I've bought the car from the first owner, who attests to have never resprayed the car. On inspecting the car I can also not find any signs of respray. The 57 indicates correctly the BROWN interior. Could GOLD perhaps mean a light yellowish kind of GREEN?

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Re: The Holy Grail found: VWSA paint & upholstery codes

Post by fig » Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:19 pm

73type2 wrote:
Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:03 pm
The paint code / trim plate on my '71 1300 Beetle says 06/57, which I assume would be paint/trim. The 06 indicates GOLD according to the table, but the colour of my car is a light green, which I'm sure is the original colour. I've bought the car from the first owner, who attests to have never resprayed the car. On inspecting the car I can also not find any signs of respray. The 57 indicates correctly the BROWN interior. Could GOLD perhaps mean a light yellowish kind of GREEN?
That's exactly what Gold is. I've always called that colour "khaki", but now we know VWSA called it Gold. I guess they could get away with it, since they didn't offer any metallic colours in 1971. My 1971 single cab is painted the same colour, which was quite popular back in the day.
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Post by 73type2 » Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:03 pm

Thanks Fig. What would be the closest rest-of-the-world colour? At least one can then have paint mixed from a known formula. I'm not talking of when you want repair work to blend in with existing, weathered paint. I suppose you would have to mix with a fuel flap as a sample, for example.

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Re: The Holy Grail found: VWSA paint & upholstery codes

Post by fig » Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:08 pm

73type2 wrote:
Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:03 pm
Thanks Fig. What would be the closest rest-of-the-world colour? At least one can then have paint mixed from a known formula. I'm not talking of when you want repair work to blend in with existing, weathered paint. I suppose you would have to mix with a fuel flap as a sample, for example.
VWSA Gold is not too far off the German 1959-60 colour known as Mango Green. But they're not the same.
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Re: The Holy Grail found: VWSA paint & upholstery codes

Post by karmannultima » Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:22 pm

73type2 wrote:
Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:03 pm
The paint code / trim plate on my '71 1300 Beetle says 06/57, which I assume would be paint/trim. The 06 indicates GOLD according to the table, but the colour of my car is a light green, which I'm sure is the original colour. I've bought the car from the first owner, who attests to have never resprayed the car. On inspecting the car I can also not find any signs of respray. The 57 indicates correctly the BROWN interior. Could GOLD perhaps mean a light yellowish kind of GREEN?
As a child, my uncle had exactly the same beetle - he called it Old Gold - I have also heard it being referred to as Champagne Gold

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Re: The Holy Grail found: VWSA paint & upholstery codes

Post by retrovan » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:32 pm

The colours work out on the Fleetline as well.

On my Vin plate, there is a small squire plate attached with the left rivit, which has the body colour "03" which is Strato Blue, which is correct with original colour.

On the body of the Vin plate, in the center line, it has One number "67" which is correct for the interior being Light Brown. Being a panel van, it only has one number there, But the buses, normally have 67/67 which is exactly according to the code of interior/panels

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Re: The Holy Grail found: VWSA paint & upholstery codes

Post by 73type2 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:59 am

Is colour matching from a sample the only way to get these colours mixed, or has somebody managed to get paint mixing formulae?

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Re: The Holy Grail found: VWSA paint & upholstery codes

Post by fig » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:42 am

73type2 wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:59 am
Is colour matching from a sample the only way to get these colours mixed, or has somebody managed to get paint mixing formulae?
So far, yes. I have met someone who claimed to have the colour mixes for all VWSA paint colours, but he has not yet provided.
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