is engine rebuild quote is reasonable ?

[SPbug]

hi folks at aircooled vw .
i habve a 1977 SP beetle
here’s the quote i need an opinion on to establish if it is reasonable in all areas .
i have already got 1835 cc pistons & sleeves .
i have bought the linkages for 2 x 40 webers
i have yet to buy the 40 webers and the air cleaners
i also have a mildly hotter crank and the xxxx [ i’m not sure what they are called ] have already been ground
this quote reflects a single carb conversion to my 1977 sp 1600 beetle [ i have changed my mind and wish to go twin carb again ]

* the sub assembly amount feels very heavy as we’ll be buying a new aluminium block
**the brake system quote feels heavy

please tell me what you think
regards
robert wilson
083 601 2239

here is the quote below ....

DESCRIPTION AMOUNT
WORKSHOP REPAIRS
REBUILD & BALANCE SUB ASSEMBLY * R28 370,00 3000
STRIP & CLEAN ENGINE R1 200,00
PAINT ALL ENGINE PARTS R1 140,00
REBUILD ALTERNATOR R1 350,00
REBUILD CARBS R3 500,00
INSTALL ENGINE & FIT ACCESSORIES R3 980,00
FIT NEW ENGINE BAY SEALO R240,00
STRIP & REBUILD BRAKE SYSTEM** R10 640,00
RREPLACE SIDE SHAFT SEALS R950,00
REMOVE & CLEAN PETROL TANKS & FUEL LINES R1 680,00
REPAIR & FIT SPOILER R2 600,00
REPLACE AXLE BOOTS R380,00
oil cooler and accessories R3 500,00
fit cooler R1 500,00






SPARES & MATERIALS
ENGINE OIL R290,00
AXLE BOOTS R390,00
CLUTCH ASSEMBLY R2 260,00
FAN BELT R76,00
EXHAUST GASKETS R289,00
ENGINE BAY SEAL R389,00
1X 2ND HAND HEAD R1 600,00
MASTER CYLENDER R1 490,00
4X WHEEL CYLENDERS R1 250,00
BRAKE SHOES R805,00
SIDE SHAFT KITS R218,52
3X BRAKE FLUID R153,90
FUEL PUMP R339,25
AIR FILTERS R500,00
TANK CLEANER R180,00
PETROL PIPES R68,00
FILTERS R1 000,00
BATTERY R1 000,00
centre manifold + carbs R7 000,00
new block 15 500,00
SUBTOTAL
TAX RATE 0,00%

SALES TAX -
OTHER -
TOTAL 95828.67

[64 Notchback]

REBUILD & BALANCE SUB ASSEMBLY ??
new block 15 500,00 ??

REBUILD CARBS R3 500,00 ???
centre manifold + carbs R7 000,00 ???

[retrovan]

seam very high to me, why not call Arno on zero83 five223one09

Tell him retrovan told you to call him and see what he quote, he does all my engines.

Herman

[Tony Z]

it is a bit rich.
The 28k for the engine build should include the cleaning and painting of the block and parts.
since you are supplying the crank, pistons, sleeves and cam I would put the total build (incl supply of the 2nd hand head) in at around 20k, excl the new case.
And, why would you paint a new case? Keep it clean and bare, it looks better and cools better since it doesnt have a layer of paint insulating it, plus that saves you R1400.

I cant comment on the price of the rest, but if you are going to that level of works (new MC, new lines, 10k to fix drums), why dont you upgrade to disc brakes on all 4 corners - its a much better and much more reliable setup and will cost you around the same, maybe 5k more, excl new rims and tyres.

[73type2]

This is VERY high. I would get some other quotes, as suggested.

[fourier]

These guys are definitely ambitious with their quote.

I bought a new alli case just over a year ago for R8000. Checked the price a month ago, and they now go for R13 000 (vs the R15 500 the builder quoted).

They further charge R3980 to install the engine, and "fit accessories". There must be a lot of accessories...NOT!

They also quote R500 for "Air filters", and a further R1000 for filters. Seems like a lot of money for a lot of filters...

They are not saying much about what exactly you are getting for the R28 370 "rebuild". No mention if any new parts are included. If you were getting new parts, it would be good, but a completely different story if they simply use your old parts.

R10 640 for the brake repair is completely unrealistic.

Too many worrying things here. I would walk away...