Fuel injection rebuild

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Re: Fuel injection rebuild

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either 1.25 or 1.35 is a great DH to have.
I wouldnt worry about the difference but if it makes you sleep better then go for it. Nothing wrong.
I've got 1.38mm on my bus.

The #3 running hotter is mainly on the non-doghouse engines. It does run a little hotter than #4 but not much compares to the old inferior cooling system. Lets just say that #3 will run about as hot as #2, which runs hotter than #1 (which runs about the same temp as #4).
The non-doghouse engines even came with a retarded timing built into the dizzy for #3, but this was done away with when VW moved to the doghouse shroud.


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Re: Fuel injection rebuild

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Thanks for the explanation. I always thought it was the diversion of cooling air to the oil cooler which left cylinder 3 with less airflow and pressure. But the internal oil cooler makes much more sense now.
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the early cooler had the air blow over the cooler and then onto the 3&4 cylinders, with #3 getting less air.
The dog house takes air out of the shroud at the fan and the rest goes over the cylinders fairly evenly.
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Finished refurbing the thermostat and it's flaps. After shiming and bushing the linkage, I was actually happy with how it worked and left the flap bushes alone, other than applying some copper compound to help it. Just need to make up the coupling between rod and thermostat, and then we are good to go!

Washers and spacers for the linkage with new e-clips. Bushes were made up from some copper sheet.
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Bushes in place
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All assembled. Added some extra holes for the return spring, as I felt it may be over-tensioned.
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Re: Fuel injection rebuild

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Hey folks. Pleased to see there has been bunch of activity whilst I have been AWOL... There are some very talented and patient v-dubbers out there!

For back into my project again. Finally cut the pushrods after about of week of fiddling with the valve geometry to make sure I understood it and that it was the same on both sides.

Eventually went for no shims under the rockers since it gave the smallest visible wipe pattern. Sharpened up an old adjuster to make it easier to see the pattern.

Unfortunately it seems one of the pushrod ends is no good. Pretty sure I didn't bash it, but I certainly didn't pick it up early-on. So Tony... You can expect an IM shortly to see if we can sort out a new one!

The final adjuster movement at 3 shim heights (ignore the location of the mark... The test adjuster doesnt contact at the same point as the swivel feet)
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A new set of chomoly PRs!
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The bad egg in the batch.... The rest were completely unmarked, so I call manufacturing defect :(
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Re: Fuel injection rebuild

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send me the tip back. I've got a few Manton tips, which if the same size, I'll send you one.
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That tip is not coming out... I am sure you already know this, but its a really tight press fit. Heat and a hammer is getting me nowhere. Also not sure if the stretching that takes place makes it possible to safely replace the tip. I know that aluminium rods tolerate this, but chromoly?

I mailed CB yesterday to see if they can assist (hoping to get them to send a new rod and tip).
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Re: Fuel injection rebuild

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keep me posted.
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Managed to get them to send one new pushrod... unfortunately their shipping costs the earth (works out to about R500 for the one). Still cheaper than entire set though :\
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yip, their shipping costs are on the other end of the sanity spectrum. Even within the US, their costs are mad.
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Re: Fuel injection rebuild

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Still waiting on the new pushrod, but moved on to fitting the tinware, manifolds and alternator. Had to make up a set of aluminium sleds for the lower cooling tin, since I won't be using the heater boxes.

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Some of the tin needs to be powder coated again for various reasons, but will get to that after I have trial fitted the high pressure fuel lines.
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Re: Fuel injection rebuild

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Coming together nicely. I bet you can't wait to hear it run.

I know the feeling mine is almost the same.
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Re: Fuel injection rebuild

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Thanks Wentzel!
I am looking forward to it running, but am not looking forward to the first start! Still lots of little things to do to get it there though, but hoping I can get the long block assembled soon
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Re: Fuel injection rebuild

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Good going, nearly there!

I like the addition of the allumimium industrial sled tins, and functional thermostatic flaps.
Simmy wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:21 pm Still waiting on the new pushrod...
Hope CB did not send the pushrod via USPS! I have waited up to six months for parts deliveries from them, as it relies on SA Post Office.
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Re: Fuel injection rebuild

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I want to make the cooling system bullet proof, hence the time spent on those details. Also found the tin really doesn't fit well on aftermarket parts... pity everyone isn't as exacting as those old Germans.

Don't say that!! I was in such a rush about getting it sorted, I didn't really pay attention to the courier and that it meant SAPO. I really do hope that some magic happens!
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