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Re: Convert to electronic ign

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:38 pm
by Bratjie
Pass the popcorn, what a jack, what a jack :roll:

Re: Convert to electronic ign

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:58 pm
by calooker
Blitz....... Offer still stands, don't care when you got what, or when.

Re: Convert to electronic ign

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:05 pm
by Blitzkrieg
calooker wrote:Blitz....... Offer still stands, don't care when you got what, or when.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I remember somewhat diferent about that other one...... :roll:

This one here is in a similar condition but no cap, rotor etc. If you are interested PM me and we can take it from there.

Re: Convert to electronic ign

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:32 am
by Drusky
So beamish buggies could probably sell an ignition kit. Then there's the imported ones. Petronix. Lumenition. Then there's the bosch 009 golf ignition DIY scene. Any other options?

Re: Convert to electronic ign

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:10 pm
by John Alves
Drusky wrote:So beamish buggies could probably sell an ignition kit.
Yes

Re: Convert to electronic ign

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:39 pm
by calooker
BEWARE, The advance curve for the golf dizzy is all wrong for a aircooled VW, your power will be down, and a flat spot off idle is very common, the full advance on a golf dizzy is all in at around 3750 RPM where a stock aircooled dizzy is 2500 RPM. A couple of dudes I know running the golf setup were rather disapointed with perfomance using the Golf setup, one of them pulled it and returned to his trusted stock 010 dizzy. Fuel consumption will also take a knock due to this. You need to remember that a golf dizzy is intended to be used on a motor that can rev to 6500rpm and is made to work with this in mind, a aircooled motor barely getting to 5000 RPM using it is going to have issues. :zhelp:

Re: Convert to electronic ign

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:15 pm
by slak
hi Rui can u get these

http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=1761

and what would they cost ?

Re: Convert to electronic ign

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:08 pm
by arnocill
Here is my modified beetle dizzy using golf internals

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The plate with the hall sender is a perfect fit into the beetle dizzy, no need even for drilling holes to secure it. I did loose the vacuum advance but that don't bother me.The cam for the points must be machined down a little to press fit the chopper plate. To get the rotor phasing correct, make sure the rotor is just reaching the number one mark on the distributor the same time the gap on the chopper plate starts to open at the hall sender. Hope this make sence. Then you will need a tp 100 and a electronic coil.
Here's a pin layout of the tp 100
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Pin number 6 will be your signal wire (green) from the distributor

Re: Convert to electronic ign

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:34 am
by calooker
arnocill wrote:Here is my modified beetle dizzy using golf internals

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The plate with the hall sender is a perfect fit into the beetle dizzy, no need even for drilling holes to secure it. I did loose the vacuum advance but that don't bother me.The cam for the points must be machined down a little to press fit the chopper plate. To get the rotor phasing correct, make sure the rotor is just reaching the number one mark on the distributor the same time the gap on the chopper plate starts to open at the hall sender. Hope this make sence. Then you will need a tp 100 and a electronic coil.
Here's a pin layout of the tp 100
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Pin number 6 will be your signal wire (green) from the distributor
I have used golf internals in a WBX dizzy but never begolf into beetle.
Willing to give this type of thing a go.
You machined the beetle shaft to do away with the lobes, and what about the recessec for the c-clips, and the slot to keep the cutter in place?
Very interested.

Re: Convert to electronic ign

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:24 pm
by Wentzel
I have modified a golf electronic dissy to fit into a beetle but it was version without internal advance (All controlled by ECU). I would imagine that you will be able to change the advance by playing with the weights, springs and stops of the golf distributor if it will be worth the effort.

Re: Convert to electronic ign

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:27 pm
by arnocill
I'm not to sure what recesses for the c-clips you're talking about calooker? The chopper or cutter plate don't have a key to keep it on the shaft it's just a press fit. I'll try and post better close up pic's tommorow if that will help

Re: Convert to electronic ign

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:36 pm
by arnocill
Wentzel wrote:I have modified a golf electronic dissy to fit into a beetle but it was version without internal advance (All controlled by ECU). I would imagine that you will be able to change the advance by playing with the weights, springs and stops of the golf distributor if it will be worth the effort.
I suppose you wll get the advance of the golf dizzy wright by playing with the springs. I had the golf internals lying around in the garage so it was the cheapest option for me, and you don't have to fiddle with the advance if you do it this way.

Re: Convert to electronic ign

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:33 am
by ainokea
Is'nt the distributor depicted above out of a 83-84 wasserboxer? All that's needed to run it is found in those production years.

Ainokea

Re: Convert to electronic ign

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:34 am
by Drusky
I've ordered the Beamish setup. Will post a thread on the components and install.

Re: Convert to electronic ign

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:32 am
by calooker
ainokea wrote:Is'nt the distributor depicted above out of a 83-84 wasserboxer? All that's needed to run it is found in those production years.

Ainokea
We had it available for many years on both the WBX and T4 powered busses in the early 80's, the WBX's available until the early 90's when the 2.1 was discontinued.
So these Elec. dizzy was around for 11-12 years here, were also available on the 1.9 WBX's.