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Re: Beetle type 4 turbo project - aka Kalashnikov
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:06 am
by Tony Z
have you tried the garrett turbo calculator?
Re: Beetle type 4 turbo project - aka Kalashnikov
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:26 pm
by 4agedub
I have had a look at the Garrett calculator.... but somehow I'm doing something wrong. It does not seem to work.
Re: Beetle type 4 turbo project - aka Kalashnikov
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:42 pm
by Tony Z
it took me a while to get it to work too. it usually throws it toys out the cot if you make the mistake (too little power) or wrong fuel ratio...
what rpm range and power are you hoping for, I'll see if I can plug it in and see what it throws back
Re: Beetle type 4 turbo project - aka Kalashnikov
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:15 am
by 4agedub
Thanks
350 - 400 hp on the flywheel
Around 5:1 AFR with methanol
Air to air intercooler
6500rpm max
5500rpm max torque
83kpa air pressure
Re: Beetle type 4 turbo project - aka Kalashnikov
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:17 am
by Tony Z
shit, that took a while to get to work. 400hp, 5440rpm, 6560rpm, VE=0.85, air to air with 1psi drop, eff = 0.8, 12.8psi atmos, 29degC (just in case you want to plug it in to see for yourself - changing VE made it work).
At 6560rpm, 401hp, 16.25psi boost, PR=2.35, intake manifold temp = 125F, airflow = 41.5lb/min, 321Nm torque
At 5440rpm, 325hp, 16.25psi boost, PR=2.35, intake manifold temp = 125F, airflow = 34.4lb/min, 321Nm torque
They recommend: GT2871R(1), GT2871R(3), GT3071R(1), GT3071R(2), GT3076R, GTX3071R, GT3782, GT3776
I would say any of the last 4 would be in your ballpark ( GT3076R, GTX3071R, GT3782, GT3776)
Re: Beetle type 4 turbo project - aka Kalashnikov
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:25 am
by 4agedub
Thanks
I see the GT3076R did come up in the list

. The GTX just flows a little better.
Re: Beetle type 4 turbo project - aka Kalashnikov
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:48 pm
by riaanj
That's gonna be a killer BUG.. keep us posted and good luck with the build, looking forward to see how it progresses, just remember, we like lotsa pictures..

Re: Beetle type 4 turbo project - aka Kalashnikov
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:27 pm
by 4agedub
garrett turbo sizes.jpg
So, I'm still looking at the various turbos available. The more I look into it, the more I think the GTX3076r with a .82 exhaust housing is the one to go for. It's capable of flowing over 500hp and should come in real soon.
Some more home work to come before I actually go out and buy it.

R10k for a turbo then it needs to be perfect.
Re: Beetle type 4 turbo project - aka Kalashnikov
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:21 pm
by DR WATSON
Holy

,I'm totally confused. Feels like i'm back at school trying to figure out a triganomatory sum

Re: Beetle type 4 turbo project - aka Kalashnikov
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:17 pm
by 4agedub
I've been talking to Walter from the Netherlands. Some of you might have seen his car on the shoptalkforums...
He has first hand experience with type 4 turbo engines, this is his suggestion.
http://www.full-race.com/store/turbos/b ... turbo.html
I must say the borg warner turbo does look amazing, but there is no local backup for these, so I will have to bring it in myself.
Re: Beetle type 4 turbo project - aka Kalashnikov
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:53 pm
by Tony Z
Walter is a good guy and has done some crazy stuff with his T4 bug.
I had a look at the Bogwarner site. Interesting, but I think their turbos are more up to seriously high boost.
For the info you have me above, have a look at the S200 (S256) turbo, puts you right in the 74% range at all times.
http://www.full-race.com/store/turbos/b ... turbo.html
Re: Beetle type 4 turbo project - aka Kalashnikov
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:13 am
by dubster
hey 4age some insparation....

Re: Beetle type 4 turbo project - aka Kalashnikov
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:51 pm
by 4agedub
Sideways and smoking.. I like!!!
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Re: Beetle type 4 turbo project - aka Kalashnikov
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:20 pm
by Gerlach
Nice!!!!! Keep us up to date with this baby!!!! and i will keep an eye open because it likes it is going to make insane power

Im bussy with a turbo motor for my 1976 moddel that is build to a Germen spec style beetle. I'm running a Rajay turbo on mine.
Re: Beetle type 4 turbo project - aka Kalashnikov
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:56 am
by dubster
that looks like a 74 has the big flickers on the fenders...saw the bugs photo in the speed and sound two months ago...looks very nice...and motor sounds interesting...start a project thread lets us see what your up to

o and the correct term is german
look hahaha welcome to the madness....