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Re: elections 09

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:49 am
by Chris
Out of the 22 000 000 voters,17 000 000 are black,so yes,it's actually more than double turn out,what a suprise.We are out numbered,blacks to whites,by 3 to 1.So for us to make sure that we can get more than a 1/3 of the votes we need more than 8 mil people that vote for the same opisition party.

I have voted 3 out of the four "elections",and my vote counted for nothing.I got more right just by taking them on in daily life without the non-existant help of any gov officials or politicians.And by the way,the first time I could vote,it was under the new SA.So make no mistake,I value my vote,maybe more than most.That is why I don't waste my time with this so-called democratic process.

Like I said,this is not a democratic process,it was an will remain a show,a farce,name it what you will,to proof to the world that the ANC IS and WILL be the leaders,no matter what.It is as much a process as the "process" that was used to prosecute JZ.It got so twisted,that "The Rule Of Law" has actually been changed through the last 4 years.

Why do I want to vote for a gov that is and will be gove,and we already know that before it is anounced that they have won.It's not a process,just a mere confirmation.And how conveniant then that they also get exactly 2/3 of the votes.

From Wikipedia;
Democracy is a form of government in which the power is held by citizens. It is derived from the Greek δημοκρατία (dēmokratía (info)), "popular government",[1] which was coined from δῆμος (dêmos), "people" and κράτος (krátos), "rule, strength" in the middle of the fifth-fourth century BC to denote the political systems then existing in some Greek city-states, notably Athens following a popular uprising in 508 BC.[2]

In political theory, democracy describes a small number of related forms of government and also a political philosophy. Even though there is no universally accepted definition of 'democracy',[3] there are two principles that any definition of democracy includes. The first principle is that all members of the society (citizens) have equal access to power and the second that all members (citizens) enjoy universally recognized freedoms and liberties.[4][5][6]
Where in SA do we have the power?We only participate in the election,then the power is given to the gov to do what the want with.Like they said,we have the mandate to do what they want,which they actually do not.We do not have equal power and we DO NOT enjoy equal rights and freedom.

Re: elections 09

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:16 am
by vader
Hear hear....

Re: elections 09

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:27 am
by Ron&Gill
Haha, when I posted my previous post, I thought, sh1t, I should have said percentage turn-out, but I thought, no, don't bother editing it, everybody reading this will understand that I mean percentage turn out. Clearly not.

Never mind...

Re: elections 09

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:30 am
by eben
I disagree... but I don't feel like typing anymore, I did my bit at Trafalgar Square and paid R215 to do it because my vote counts.

Re: elections 09

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:32 am
by Barbwire
Very well put Chris, I am impressed. I nearly smashed my TV in this morning................

Re: elections 09

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:36 am
by Merlin
eben wrote:I disagree... but I don't feel like typing anymore, I did my bit at Trafalgar Square and paid R215 to do it because my vote counts.
Please elaborate...

Why are you required to pay in order to vote [overseas]?

Re: elections 09

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:54 am
by eben
Parking and Congestion Charge in Central London isn't cheap ;)

Re: elections 09

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:05 am
by eben
Oh! Forgot to mention. Thank you for everyone that contributed to this democratic process.
The results were encouraging. Better competition makes democracy more accountable.
I even had Jessie Duarte calling me "Right wing" :mrgreen:

Re: elections 09

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:13 pm
by karmakoma
LOL @ Eben
Thats alone is worth the R215!