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hinge pin removal (tools and ways to)

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:14 pm
by 1972
hi have been looking at ways to remove hinge pins from what ive heard you can heat up the hinge (and mess your paint up) and beat the thing out wich has to be done from the bottom then have seen tools that remove them (not in SA) and cost a arm and a leg before you have even paid for shipping or there is this V if anyone has any other methods of how they got ther's out please show us how thanks shane


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Re: hinge pin removal (tools and ways to)

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:00 am
by karmakoma
If I could have something like this made up, what would a fair price be for one?
Who would be interested in buying?

Re: hinge pin removal (tools and ways to)

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:50 am
by Barry
Karma, that's just a regular two legged gear puller. Should be really easy to knock something like that up from a couple of bits of flat bar. For the number of time anyone would use one, I doubt it would worth having it "made up" specially?
The threaded section on a gear puller would probably be thicker than the hinge pin though. If making something similar just use an 8.8 bolt (not too long) with the point ground to a taper. Use a punch to make a locating point on the end of the hinge pin or it will want to slip off. If you are going to be able to get the pin out without heat or brute force, this will be the way to do it.

Re: hinge pin removal (tools and ways to)

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:07 am
by Ron&Gill
Yes, looks like a standerd 2 legged wheel puller to me. I've got one. I would maybe make a more stable "platform" for it to grip onto. But wouldn't you want to remove the hinge from the door first? I can just see that puller slip and knock that beauty-stripe right off the bus.

Re: hinge pin removal (tools and ways to)

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:35 am
by beetlefanatic
I found this one on the Samba. Everyone raves about it, but it cannot remove a mirror hinge pin as the tool doesn't have space at the top. Also it costs $180.
Door hinge pin removal tool4.jpg
This other one is sold by Eastwood and looks a lot like a G calmp. I'm busy making something similar using a G clamp. I'll report back if I have any success.
Door hinge pin removal tool9.jpg

Re: hinge pin removal (tools and ways to)

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:38 am
by 1972
[quote="beetlefanatic"]I found this one on the Samba. Everyone raves about it, but it cannot remove a mirror hinge pin as the tool doesn't have space at the top. Also it costs $180.
Door hinge pin removal tool4.jpg
karmakoma if you could make something like this up i would be interested

Re: hinge pin removal (tools and ways to)

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:42 am
by karmakoma
I'll find out costs. Not me personally, just have a friend who might be able to help us out.
Will keep you posted.

Re: hinge pin removal (tools and ways to)

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:32 am
by Bad Ass Bob
A good craftsman should be able to make that, for way cheaper than $180, !!!!!!!!!!Proudly SA

Re: hinge pin removal (tools and ways to)

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:19 pm
by karmakoma
Ok guys,my friend agreed to give it a go.
Now I just need some dimensions.

How big the "clamp", diameter of the door pin, I presume the "pushrod" part of the clamp should be a mm or two thinner.
How long should we make that pushrod, I dont have a bus to measure on :-), so all input would be greatly appreciated.

Re: hinge pin removal (tools and ways to)

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:39 pm
by 1972
KK will this at the end of the day fit a beetle aswell?

Re: hinge pin removal (tools and ways to)

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:50 pm
by karmakoma
I dont see why not, a different diameter "push rod" to fit the beetle hinge (if they are even different), and bob's your uncle.

Re: hinge pin removal (tools and ways to)

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:15 pm
by 1972
karmakoma wrote:I dont see why not, a different diameter "push rod" to fit the beetle hinge (if they are even different), and bob's your uncle.
what i never wanted a uncle called bob :shock: cool thanks KK

Re: hinge pin removal (tools and ways to)

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:15 pm
by beetlefanatic
Karma, here is the link to The Samba. Maybe you can get som inspiration from this.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/ ... ?id=522556
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/ ... ?id=522550
Quote from the maker "This tool will not remove a bus mirror arm but it will remove the mirror arm that is usually used with an elephant ear mirror. I had been asked by a couple people to make a "bus only" tool that would remove the mirror arm and cab door hinges. I made a prototype for this but it wasn't successful at all. The problem is that there is not enough surface area for the head of the tool to seat against the top of the hinge. The base of the mirror arm is nearly as wide as the hinge itself. So I have stuck with what the tool does best and that is both beetle and bus cab door hinge pins. I also have been told that the original VW hinge tools will not remove the mirror arms either."


The only problem with this tool is it cannot remove a bus mirror pin that has been cut off like mine because it uses that part of the hinge for leverage. I need something that can overcome this problem. The diameter of the mirror "foot" is about 20mm whereas the normal hinge pin is a lot smaller.

Here is a pic of another one.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/ ... ?id=334724

Hope you can help.

Re: hinge pin removal (tools and ways to)

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:58 pm
by 1972
where you ever able to get hold of the measurements for the pin???? i have a hinge mirror pin that i could measure ,let me know if you need those measurements of the hinge pin.

Re: hinge pin removal (tools and ways to)

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:33 pm
by karmakoma
Please send me some measurements, as of this weekend, I can also measure, but lets make sure they are the same.
Thanks