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Finally got my bus' papers....

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 12:46 pm
by brianj
So nearly 4 years later I have my papers for my bus....
Bought in 2007 and I didnt really get to trying to get it into my name till 2008. Then only I realised the scrapping paper I had been given was for a different bus. So I had to go the built up route.... Police clearance, weighbridge submit all the affadavits. Then I get told that the bus is on the system so cant be introduced as a built up - I must get a duplicate reg. And its still in the original owners name.... and there have been 2 owners in the interim.
So I track down the 70 year old registered owner in Maunde (Pta east), who says the car was taken from her without permission.... eventually I persuade her that I bought it legally and she agrees to help me. She doesnt have papers anymore, so we go to apply for duplicates. I arrange a day to collect her - and she brings her 18month old screaming randdaugher for the full day running around Pretoria, Waltloo and back to her place for proof of address only for licensing to tell us its not on their system. What a nightmare. Turns out its on the archive so will have to be introduced again anyway. Luckily I get her to do an affadavit giving me the bus.
When I went back to licensing the woman who gave me the details of the owner remembered me and agreed to help me since I had tracked down the owner instead of just giving a long story. So then it was new clearance and affadavits and she submitted the papers. Then a further clearance and lastly to registration to submit the change of registration... This took 3 times as her previous ID on the system was form one of the homelands and had been long since lost.
But eventually I received the papers last week. All legal and in my name now, just the RWC to go and then I will get a licence.

So in short, make sure of the papers when you buy. It can be done but I sure as hell wont be doing this again. I reckon this has cost close to 3k in service fees for clearances etc not to mention the time taken. But I do feel better having got it out there now...

Re: Finally got my bus' papers....

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:51 am
by calooker
Learnt this lesson many moons ago, been there.
Nowdays now matter what, no valid current paperwork, no deal, simple.

Re: Finally got my bus' papers....

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:08 am
by jolas
Eish, also been there before - glad to hear you are all sorted out now :hangloose:

(are you the Brian who collects Vespas?)

Re: Finally got my bus' papers....

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:11 am
by brianj
Nearly the same, lambrettas ;-)

Re: Finally got my bus' papers....

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:31 am
by jolas
Sheez, hi, we probably chatted last about 7 years ago. Around about the time I aquired my Fleetline wide-bed SC (Farouk), I think you were looking for a pick-up then, or had just bought one to transport your scooters around ............. yours is a Fleetline without the wide-bed ?
Cheers !

Re: Finally got my bus' papers....

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 11:54 am
by Hloni
Headache as it might be, it can be done the ethical way.

Re: Finally got my bus' papers....

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 3:36 pm
by brianj
jolas wrote:Sheez, hi, we probably chatted last about 7 years ago. Around about the time I aquired my Fleetline wide-bed SC (Farouk), I think you were looking for a pick-up then, or had just bought one to transport your scooters around ............. yours is a Fleetline without the wide-bed ?
Cheers !
Yes, I did get a fleetline and now the DC. Then a Fasty, so I must be hooked..... As for the 4 scooters I have without papers.... I never learn.

Re: Finally got my bus' papers....

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 3:40 pm
by Blitzkrieg
Took me one month to sort out, car wasn't on the system, last had the yellow and black plates. It's all about who you know. R3.5k later, sorted out with a roadworthy and current disc. So yes it can be done legally and ethically.

Re: Finally got my bus' papers....

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 3:40 pm
by Blitzkrieg
Took me one month to sort out, car wasn't on the system, last had the yellow and black plates. It's all about who you know. R3.5k later, sorted out with a roadworthy and current disc. So yes it can be done legally and ethically.

Re: Finally got my bus' papers....

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:28 pm
by brianj
Just when I thought it was over..... I went to go and pay my daily's licence today, only to be told I cant because the bus is now on the system, not roadworthy and in arrears since 1996! I had thought it would be in my name but not licenced until I roadworthy it..... I guess not. Suspect I am in for a few K here....

Re: Finally got my bus' papers....

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:42 pm
by buggyfan
brianj wrote:Just when I thought it was over..... I went to go and pay my daily's licence today, only to be told I cant because the bus is now on the system, not roadworthy and in arrears since 1996! I had thought it would be in my name but not licenced until I roadworthy it..... I guess not. Suspect I am in for a few K here....
just make double sure on that ,i dont think theres a way they can hold you liable for 15 years worth of money.
i was under the impression that your car goes off the system after 5 years of not having a valid license

Re: Finally got my bus' papers....

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:46 pm
by buggyfan
brianj wrote:Just when I thought it was over..... I went to go and pay my daily's licence today, only to be told I cant because the bus is now on the system, not roadworthy and in arrears since 1996! I had thought it would be in my name but not licenced until I roadworthy it..... I guess not. Suspect I am in for a few K here....
just make double sure on that ,i dont think theres a way they can hold you liable for 15 years worth of money.
i was under the impression that your car goes off the system after 5 years of not having a valid license

anyway pm sent

Re: Finally got my bus' papers....

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:22 pm
by brianj
Thanks for the help - I have since established the arrears is only about R600 - very relieved. The info that the Post Office had was only the last payment date, they didnt tell me the amount. I also couldnt pay there as it is not roadworthy yet, so have sent the papers off to the licencing department for payment.

Finally got my bus' papers....

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:16 pm
by didi
I renewed my annual bus licence at my local post office. Also not roadworthy yet. The printout didn't have the disc printed out because of that.

Re: Finally got my bus' papers....

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:18 am
by brianj
OK, sorted now... couldnt be done at the post office as a new registration had to be issued to replace the old T reg. Now I am at least up to date and just need the RWC done to get my disc. Hopefuly I can take it thru next week to get all the niggles fixed and the RWC done by Dirk.