Is it possible to convert a 'box to run a taller 4th gear?
I'm modifying my IRS 'box quite heavily, and want nice acceleration for me to play around with in first through to third, but would also like a slightly higher top speed...is this possible?
Cheers, N.
Taller gears?
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Taller gears?
"Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, and oversteer, the rear.
Hp is how fast you hit the wall, and Torque is how far you take the wall with you."
Hp is how fast you hit the wall, and Torque is how far you take the wall with you."
sled wrote:well obviously the UK is wrong.
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Fourth gear on an ACVW is already an overdrive, so there's no point in making it longer. Split buses had a longer fourth gear than Beetles (IIRC, .82 vs .89), so a split bus box will give an improvement, and it's more or less a straight swap (axles and nose cone are different, and don't forget to flip the ring and pinion or you'll have four reverse and one forward gears).
What you need is to look for a longer final drive (ie, diff ratio). I believe 3.88:1 was the tallest diff ratio offered to fit a Beetle box. S, SP and other late model SA Beetles had this as standard. I believe 67 buses may also have had this ratio, and maybe some type3s as well.
Apart from final drive, another improvement would be to bring 2nd and 3rd closer together so you don't have the big "jump" from 2nd to 3rd, but I have no idea if there are alternate ratios available for 2nd and 3rd.
Your best bet would be to speak to a gearbox expert like Erlemann motors and ask them what options you have re gearing. They will know what you can chop and change.
What you need is to look for a longer final drive (ie, diff ratio). I believe 3.88:1 was the tallest diff ratio offered to fit a Beetle box. S, SP and other late model SA Beetles had this as standard. I believe 67 buses may also have had this ratio, and maybe some type3s as well.
Apart from final drive, another improvement would be to bring 2nd and 3rd closer together so you don't have the big "jump" from 2nd to 3rd, but I have no idea if there are alternate ratios available for 2nd and 3rd.
Your best bet would be to speak to a gearbox expert like Erlemann motors and ask them what options you have re gearing. They will know what you can chop and change.
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Kewl; will do. Thanks for the info.
I'm ordering some nice kit for my new 'box, and it will go to a friend of my dad's who runs the biggest gearbox place in the country, so he knows what he's doing.
Cheers, N.
I'm ordering some nice kit for my new 'box, and it will go to a friend of my dad's who runs the biggest gearbox place in the country, so he knows what he's doing.

Cheers, N.
"Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, and oversteer, the rear.
Hp is how fast you hit the wall, and Torque is how far you take the wall with you."
Hp is how fast you hit the wall, and Torque is how far you take the wall with you."
sled wrote:well obviously the UK is wrong.
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I'll have to check my IRS 'box the next time I 'visit' it IMPI. 
Where do I find the code?
My ambulance has a Freeway flyer too.
Thanks, N.

Where do I find the code?
My ambulance has a Freeway flyer too.

Thanks, N.
"Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, and oversteer, the rear.
Hp is how fast you hit the wall, and Torque is how far you take the wall with you."
Hp is how fast you hit the wall, and Torque is how far you take the wall with you."
sled wrote:well obviously the UK is wrong.