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Dyno day results

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 9:00 pm
by Wentzel
Went to a dyno day this past weekend to see what my beetle does now. Results came to 120kw and 240nm on the wheels, I was expecting more according to previous dyno but she feels great and that is what matters. There was a couple of strong cars at the event. Citi golf with just over 300kw, Supra with very close to 400kw using std engine internals or so they say? Some nice sleepers that even I would never suspect. Amazing what power some guys get out of relatively simple engines! Some of these results are with high boost and racing fuel.

Re: Dyno day results

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 11:17 am
by Bratjie
160 horses for 1776cc is great :hangloose: Well done mate

Re: Dyno day results

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:47 pm
by Wentzel
Thanks Bratjie, I'm not happy with the mapping yet and sure there is a bit more to squeeze out of it. Next step is methanol injection but still looking for suppliers. Previous dyno showed 144kw but it seemed a lot to me so I think this is more realistic.

Can't wait to see what your waterboxer is going to do!

Re: Dyno day results

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 8:04 pm
by Bratjie
A bit sick at the moment but I' very close to completion, currently busy making pos fibre mold of the rad grille from a Golf 4, need to tidy up the front spoiler and imrove airflow, as they say, the proof's in the pudding :D

Re: Dyno day results

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 8:13 pm
by Bugger
That is cool as a std Rotary turbo in a Beetle does around 120Kw on the wheel s so you must have alot of fun with the guys

I will start a thread in the next close future with a 2.1 WBX Turbo with wossener pistons etc that I am going to build for a guy in DBN and another one for Dr Watson on the forum

Chiiiirs

Re: Dyno day results

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 9:38 pm
by Wentzel
Nice I didn't realize I'm on the same level as the rotors. Any idea what the modified waterboxers are capable of? Or are you exploring it now?

Hope you are better soon Bratjie I'm also not great this winter is catching a lot of people especially when working on the car in the cold ...

Re: Dyno day results

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 9:55 pm
by Bratjie
I got two ulcers I'm battling with for two years now, but the work has to go on, anyway this what I'm planning to do next, saw a nice golf 4 grille and planning to mould it into front spoiler with fibreglass
VW Front spoiler rad grille (1).jpg
Mocking up but it should be flush with front scoop and then finish it off and respray,
VW Front spoiler rad grille (3).jpg

Re: Dyno day results

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 10:26 pm
by Bugger
Wentzel wrote:Nice I didn't realize I'm on the same level as the rotors. Any idea what the modified waterboxers are capable of? Or are you exploring it now?

Hope you are better soon Bratjie I'm also not great this winter is catching a lot of people especially when working on the car in the cold ...
The first wasser should make around 250Hp and 2nd one 400Hp low Boost and both will be EFI

Re: Dyno day results

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:39 pm
by Wentzel
Hi Pierre

I've been meaning to ask what it takes to get 400 or even 250 horses out of those engines. We should really talk a bit when we are at an event again.

Thanks

Re: Dyno day results

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:23 am
by Tony Z
Well done Wentzel. Proud days!!!

I know a guy in the UK who spun his tyres on the dyno at 472hp using a wasserboxer... He worked for Porsche when he took me for a spin in his car and it was awesome, ok, he "only" had 180kW at the time....

Re: Dyno day results

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:45 pm
by Wentzel
Thanks Tony,

That is really impressive but I'm sure aircooleds with a proper casing etc can do similar?
I'm a bit disappointed as I said but its probably better for my clutch setup :) . I'm sure you know the feeling of playing with the engine and trying to get the best out of it! I'm already thinking about increasing to 2L+ with stroker and matching pistons but I should stop somewhere I guess ... and just enjoy it.

Re: Dyno day results

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:39 pm
by Tony Z
Wentzel wrote: but I should stop somewhere I guess ... and just enjoy it.
I said that a few weeks ago and now the engine is out again...

Why not enjoy it while you save and collect parts for the stroker?

Re: Dyno day results

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:32 am
by Wentzel
Also true! But then I will definitely need to upgrade my gearbox before I destroy my still std box. Should make the whole upgrade a long term project, have to start somewhere in that case.