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Car vs. engine, your opinion requested, please...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:21 pm
by Merlin
If you were to sell a car, but keep the engine, what would you say should go with the car and what with the engine?
Starter motor? Car or engine?
Thrust bearing? Car or engine?
Clutch? Car or engine?
Thank you.

Re: Car vs. engine, your opinion requested, please...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:28 pm
by JamesD
Starter is part of the gearbox so car.
Thrust bearing is part of the gearbox so car.
Clutch is part of the engine so engine.
or what is agreed upon...
Re: Car vs. engine, your opinion requested, please...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:31 pm
by Merlin
JamesD wrote:Starter is part of the gearbox so car.
Thrust bearing is part of the gearbox so car.
Clutch is part of the engine so engine.
or what is agreed upon...
Thanks James. Your input is appreciated.
Anyone else care to opine, please?

Re: Car vs. engine, your opinion requested, please...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:15 pm
by Sambabus
I agree
Re: Car vs. engine, your opinion requested, please...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:31 pm
by retrovan
Normally if you take the motor out, and every thing that had to come out to take the motor out, stays with the engine, whats left on the body, goes with the body.
The starter will be for the flywheel, and should the next owner want to fit a different flywheel, he will not be able to use the starter.
And the starter is there to make the engine work, so it stays with the motor
You can not bench start the engine
without the starter, but you can turn the body into a trailer
without the starter......
Only my opinion......
Herman
Re: Car vs. engine, your opinion requested, please...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:55 pm
by buggyfan
Point taken but the how you gonna bench start the engine if youve got nowhere to attach the starter to???
Re: Car vs. engine, your opinion requested, please...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:20 pm
by Pine
Merlin wrote:Anyone else care to opine, please?

OH! Pine...........!

Re: Car vs. engine, your opinion requested, please...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:06 pm
by Dawie
And the air cleaner? Think usually it would go with the engine, unless it's a type 1 engined baywindow or split kombi. There the large body-mounted air cleaner might stay with the body.
If we were to hold a poll to see where the starter went, (When members sold or bought complete used aircooled vw engines in the past.)
My prediction of the results would be that in most cases the starter stayed with the car.
Re: Car vs. engine, your opinion requested, please...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:37 pm
by splitbusahollic
Re: Car vs. engine, your opinion requested, please...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:15 pm
by Bugger
JamesD wrote:Starter is part of the gearbox so car.
Thrust bearing is part of the gearbox so car.
Clutch is part of the engine so engine.
or what is agreed upon...
Is this a Aircooled we are talking about
Agree with James and agree with Dawie
Have bought many beetles and abandoned busses and starter was still in the body
Re: Car vs. engine, your opinion requested, please...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:28 pm
by Merlin
Yep, Bugger, acVW.
Thanks for the replies everyone.

I was looking for a collective view on something being debated and have now gained the outcome I expected.
N.
Re: Car vs. engine, your opinion requested, please...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:51 am
by calooker
JamesD wrote:Starter is part of the gearbox so car.
Thrust bearing is part of the gearbox so car.
Clutch is part of the engine so engine.
or what is agreed upon...
That's how I see it too.
Re: Car vs. engine, your opinion requested, please...
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:31 pm
by forcecooled
Belated reply,
WHEN ever does one buy new or reconditioned engine or sub that has a clutch fitted ? ------ NEVER
These are only included because they are forgotten in place or not needed, or are a negotiated part of the deal.
Re: Car vs. engine, your opinion requested, please...
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:38 pm
by forcecooled
Clutch may be bolted to the flywheel , but is actually a seperate component of the transmission system
Q
Is a beetle aircleaner part of the engine?
Is a ghia aircleaner part of the car?
Is a kombi aircleaner part of the Kombi?
Hehehehe
Re: Car vs. engine, your opinion requested, please...
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:42 pm
by forcecooled
AND
Is a Brizillia's reduction boxes part of the body or part of the gearbox ....... ?