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Pretoria/Joburg dent removal.
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:54 pm
by yohbie
Hi guys.
My Kombi has a large surface area dent on the roof that I can not simply push out myself and I'm not puttying the whole thing. Can you guys recommend someone trust worthy in the Pretoria or Johannesburg area that will be able to fix this properly for me?

Thanks guys.

Re: Pretoria/Joburg dent removal.
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:06 pm
by Terry Phillips
It looks like a big dent from someone standing on the roof,try using the suction pad from your GPS and pull it out,its worth a try.
Re: Pretoria/Joburg dent removal.
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:05 am
by fig
Roof dents on a bus are difficult because the metal is now stretched. Even if you push it out, it will have a tendency to pop back every time you hit a bump. You'll need to find someone who is skilled at shrinking sheet metal, or add another roof brace below the dent.
Re: Pretoria/Joburg dent removal.
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:41 pm
by splitfan
I agree with Fig , im no expert but I do know putting cookies in the gutter beading wil not fix it....

Re: Pretoria/Joburg dent removal.
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:59 pm
by retrovan
Them are not "Just" cookies,
but are offerings to the dent fairy..........
Herman
Re: Pretoria/Joburg dent removal.
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:02 pm
by retrovan
Either which way, but the roof liner will have to come out.
Confirm with Barry, but think you can push it out from inside and then have to heat the edge to shrink the metal back in place.
Herman
Re: Pretoria/Joburg dent removal.
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:41 am
by Barry
You might get lucky with the suction cup deal - I can't really tell from the pic, but if the edge of the dent hasn't kinked, the metal may not actually have stretched.
If that doesn't work, or if as Fig suggests it pops back again, you may still be able to repair without damaging paint: Upward/outward pressure (again a suction cup, or else something that pushes up from inside but over a large area) while gently working the edge down (off dolly) with a wood/plastic 'slapper' or other non-marring tool. A layer of masking tape over the area will protect the paint further.
It is easy to go too far/aggressively - often more damage is done to the metal by over zealous (or wrong sequence) dent removal. First rule is always to work backwards, ie apply your forces as closely as possible to directly opposite the direction of impact that caused the damage. Kinks and creases are usually secondary damage, and starting on them can make things worse...
You could try Mike at Cruztomize
https://www.facebook.com/CruztomizeKustomSpeedShop
Re: Pretoria/Joburg dent removal.
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:21 am
by yohbie
Hi guys, thank you for aal the feedback, highly appreciated.
fig wrote:Roof dents on a bus are difficult because the metal is now stretched. Even if you push it out, it will have a tendency to pop back every time you hit a bump. You'll need to find someone who is skilled at shrinking sheet metal, or add another roof brace below the dent.
Thanks fig, as you say its difficult so thats why I'm not going to attempt the roof repair myself...
splitfan wrote:I agree with Fig , im no expert but I do know putting cookies in the gutter beading wil not fix it....

retrovan wrote:Them are not "Just" cookies,
but are offerings to the dent fairy..........
Herman
The dent is still there so the cookie offering did not do the trick...
retrovan wrote:Either which way, but the roof liner will have to come out.
Confirm with Barry, but think you can push it out from inside and then have to heat the edge to shrink the metal back in place.
Herman
I have just spoken to another car fan and he said the same.
Barry wrote:You might get lucky with the suction cup deal - I can't really tell from the pic, but if the edge of the dent hasn't kinked, the metal may not actually have stretched.
If that doesn't work, or if as Fig suggests it pops back again, you may still be able to repair without damaging paint: Upward/outward pressure (again a suction cup, or else something that pushes up from inside but over a large area) while gently working the edge down (off dolly) with a wood/plastic 'slapper' or other non-marring tool. A layer of masking tape over the area will protect the paint further.
It is easy to go too far/aggressively - often more damage is done to the metal by over zealous (or wrong sequence) dent removal. First rule is always to work backwards, ie apply your forces as closely as possible to directly opposite the direction of impact that caused the damage. Kinks and creases are usually secondary damage, and starting on them can make things worse...
You could try Mike at Cruztomize
https://www.facebook.com/CruztomizeKustomSpeedShop
Barry, thanks for the feedback, I will definately pay Mike a visit in January.
Once again thanks to all for the info and help.