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Almost free fuel from waste

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:47 pm
by fig
If this is for real (it looks like it) then this is a game changer: http://www.popularmechanics.co.za/tech/ ... tic-waste/

Re: Almost free fuel from waste

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:16 pm
by Sambabus
Incredible, I hope his technology becomes mainstream, and not bought by the big petrochemical companies and mothballed, like so many other great biofuel ideas

Re: Almost free fuel from waste

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:37 pm
by Drusky
I don't think the tech is that new. I do think, however, that the high price of oil made it viable. Of course with the oil price dropping the way it has lately the tech may not remain viable for long.

6 years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmC-bfY4eWU

Controlling your feed stock is very important.

Re: Almost free fuel from waste

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:37 am
by Barry
He can make diesel at R2.50/litre. I think the (temporarily low) oil price won't hurt...

Re: Almost free fuel from waste

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:00 pm
by retrovan
even at R2.50 a liter, he will not make money.

The goverment has already come down like a ton of bricks on "Green Diesel" producers, that they have withdrawn from the industry.

Most of the price you pay at the pump is tax, tax on tax, and so on.

That is why he has refraned from using the "D" word. (Diesel)

As the main sours of revenue, fuel will always be taxed to death.

Even a water converter will have a big tax slaped on it.

Herman

Re: Almost free fuel from waste

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:55 am
by Barry
Taxes and duties, as well as 'running costs' (distribution, markups etc) make up around HALF the cost of fuel......

http://www.shell.com/zaf/products-servi ... price.html

Put another way, the price of crude oil constitutes about 30% of the retail cost of fuel. The BFP (basic fuel price - ie end product) makes up about 55% of the cost, taxes and levies about 30%

http://mg.co.za/article/2011-04-06-why- ... more-today

At R2.50/litre cost of his end product (refined fuel) he will be just fine

Re: Almost free fuel from waste

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:34 am
by fig
I don't think he has any intention of selling fuel. His business is selling the production plant, which he has designed to fit inside a standard shipping container. He is also working on a small model for farmers and small communities. While the idea may not be new, he seems to have some up with some useful innovations which, coupled with the absence of toxic by-products, takes tis idea to the next level.

Re: Almost free fuel from waste

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:18 pm
by Klaus
This tech has been around for a while. A number of companies were raising money offshore and locally to support this. The interactions I had ground to a halt by the TIA mechanisms namely Red Tape, BEE, and general con artists.

Most options use car tyres ( reducing landfill waste) and create bunker grade oil and steel recycling.