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vw beetle IRS rear suspension

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:39 am
by johanmarais
Morning all

From what year model did the VW Beetle have vw beetle IRS rear suspension and was it available here in SA?

I've only seen swing axle's before and never a IRS.

Re: vw beetle IRS rear suspension

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:11 am
by Pine
SA Beetles never had IRS

Re: vw beetle IRS rear suspension

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:05 pm
by dixtoy
Is a swing axle beetle not technically also IRS? Just not with loose shafts and CV joints


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Re: vw beetle IRS rear suspension

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:33 pm
by johanmarais
Thanks Pine, is there any aftermarket way to convert it into IRS and (if so) do you maybe know if its locally available?

Re: vw beetle IRS rear suspension

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:11 pm
by Pine
johanmarais wrote:Thanks Pine, is there any aftermarket way to convert it into IRS and (if so) do you maybe know if its locally available?
I suppose anything is available, but perhaps it would be the easiest to get a 1302 or 1303 donor Beetle. The biggest problem will probably be to source an IRS gearbox, the whole conversion process is explained here: http://www.bajaclub.co.uk/PDF_Documents/IRS.PDF

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Re: vw beetle IRS rear suspension

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:01 pm
by Tony Z
you could also use trailing arms from a 944

Dixon, you are right, but in VW circles, the semi-trailing arm version is referred to as IRS and the one we know as swing axle.
In reality though, they are both independent (IRS)

Re: vw beetle IRS rear suspension

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:09 pm
by dixtoy
My one beetle was made IRS as by the previous owner, not sure what they used. Will take some picks tomorrow. My box came out of a Fugly kombi and changed by Pierre to stage1 with CV joints


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Re: vw beetle IRS rear suspension

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:46 pm
by johanmarais
Thanks for all the info(s)

I'm playing around with the idea of a Subaru swap with Subaru gearbox.

I've done an EJ25 swap onto a Beetle box before on a trike and I'm in the planning stages of a new build and would like a Subaru swap with gearbox swap into a Beetle.

Re: vw beetle IRS rear suspension

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:01 pm
by johanmarais
Will I be right in saying that the 1302/1303 is the Super Beetle?

Re: vw beetle IRS rear suspension

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:08 pm
by Pine
johanmarais wrote:Will I be right in saying that the 1302/1303 is the Super Beetle?
That would be correct, yes. Not to be confused with the South African 1600S curved windscreen Beetle though

Re: vw beetle IRS rear suspension

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:09 pm
by dixtoy
Here is one pic I have with me now
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Re: vw beetle IRS rear suspension

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:14 pm
by johanmarais
Pine wrote:That would be correct, yes. Not to be confused with the South African 1600S curved windscreen Beetle though
Thanks Pine
dixtoy wrote:Here is one pic I have with me now
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Thanks dixtoy, that photo helps allot.

So what should I look for if I'm browsing the classified sites?

Re: vw beetle IRS rear suspension

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:19 pm
by dixtoy
I would think if you find a scrap type 4 you could use its rear suspension and weld it on to a beetle pan with some modified brackets. What area you in? I have a 412 rolling body with a gearbox that we could talk about should you want to go that route. I'm in Heidelberg GP.


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Re: vw beetle IRS rear suspension

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:27 pm
by johanmarais
dixtoy wrote:I would think if you find a scrap type 4 you could use its rear suspension and weld it on to a beetle pan with some modified brackets. What area you in? I have a 412 rolling body with a gearbox that we could talk about should you want to go that route. I'm in Heidelberg GP.

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Vanderbijlpark, not that far from you.

Re: vw beetle IRS rear suspension

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:30 pm
by Pine
Hope these pics help

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