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T2 Head light conversion

Post by Terry Phillips » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:48 am

I have asked about this before but I think it was using Datsun 1200 lights which I thought are what I have.It turns out the lights are for Golf one,s and my problem is the mounting plate screw hole is where a half moon cut out is on the lamp and same the other side where I fitted a L bracket.Can the Golf lights be used or do I just go and but the Datsun ones. :?
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Re: T2 Head light conversion

Post by retrovan » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:29 am

The Golf 1 semi sealed lights are the easiest to fit

If you have 3 little tags welded on the inside of the light bulge, you just line up the beam with the "TOP" in the right place and transfer the holes to the lamp mount ring supplied, drill holes and fit with self tapper screws

If you do not have these tabs, make 3 90deg. angle brackets screw to lamp mount rings, offer it up to the bulb hollow, and mark, fix with self drilling screws.

Easy, these give brilliant light. have done it to all my VW's ..... but do not tell Sean . :shock:

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Re: T2 Head light conversion

Post by Terry Phillips » Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:08 am

Thanks Herman.

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Re: T2 Head light conversion

Post by Terry Phillips » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:14 am

For the love of me I cant figure it out,decided to come inside again before I end up smashing the lights against the wall.I think Its best I put the old ones back.

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Re: T2 Head light conversion

Post by sean » Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:24 pm

Please don't use golf headlights. They are incorrect for baywindows prior to 1975. From 1975 they changed to the flat glass lens, but the brackets still differ from Golf. The headlight bowl on 75 onwards busses had tabs to attach bracket and be able to aim properly. The headlight bezels also differs on these lights as they don't have the adjuster screw holes.

Rather refurbish your old ones to keep the bus correct. It would be catastrophic to have self drilling screws to attach your lens and then try and actually aim them properly with these.

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Re: T2 Head light conversion

Post by Terry Phillips » Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:45 pm

Thanks Sean I will do the best I can to restore the old ones before I go the other route it makes more sense.Herman you are getting to know Sean's dislikes quite well. :lol:

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Re: T2 Head light conversion

Post by retrovan » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:35 pm

Terry Phillips wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:45 pm
Thanks Sean I will do the best I can to restore the old ones before I go the other route it makes more sense.Herman you are getting to know Sean's dislikes quite well. :lol:
:lol: :lol:

I knew it..

Sean would rather drive over all the pedestrians and then crash into a tree, before fitting decent lights.

And he also never uses his display vans for enjoyable transport especially after dark.

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Re: T2 Head light conversion

Post by retrovan » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:45 pm

Terry, if you do not come right with the Sean refurbishment,

and want to install the Golf 1 lights, Call me and I will talk you through it,

as you will have adjustment

as well as it looking very close to original when done right.

USA told VW to upgrade their lights in the USA market, and they did just that, so that means they knew their lights where :bn:

And if you need good lights due to old age, and because you want to enjoy your bus even at night without killing someone, then do it,

and place the original lights in a storage box marked "Sean"

should he want to buy your bus and return it to original. :wink:

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Re: T2 Head light conversion

Post by sean » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:09 pm

Well Herman, why bother with rubbish city golf headlamps with incandescent globes, when compared to a set bi xenon or LED modern headlamps? I’m sure those golf ones will also be causing you to run into innocent children, lamp posts and peoples gardens compared to a set of modern headlamps.

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Re: T2 Head light conversion

Post by Jdt1976 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:58 am

Does the new light’s bracket not fit on the late bay light? Just a straight swop.
Think it is the H4 light.

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Re: T2 Head light conversion

Post by retrovan » Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:02 am

sean wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:09 pm
Well Herman, why bother with rubbish city golf headlamps with incandescent globes, when compared to a set bi xenon or LED modern headlamps? I’m sure those golf ones will also be causing you to run into innocent children, lamp posts and peoples gardens compared to a set of modern headlamps.
As you can change the globs out for the most powerful output lights possible, you will be able to see the fear in there faces as you hit them ... :oops:

After all we do not want to stray too far away from original .. :roll:

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Re: T2 Head light conversion

Post by retrovan » Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:13 am

Jdt1976 wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:58 am
Does the new light’s bracket not fit on the late bay light? Just a straight swop.
Think it is the H4 light.
Yes it does Jaco

Its the Hella A-3863 165 MM H4 beam with cradle,

But the 3 holes do not always line up.

So when you fit the semi sealed lamp with its cradle, it gives you full set-ability.

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Re: T2 Head light conversion

Post by retrovan » Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:48 am

Just as a matter of fact,

if you replace the beetle and split bus reflector with only the semi sealed beam,

discarding the cradle that comes with the semi sealed beam,

using the original clip down clips,

you can fit these and still use the original setting screws and headlight glass

If you using the cradle, then you put a dummy screw with nut in the setting screw holes to make it look original.

All my vw's have them fitted, and I was extremely thankful I fitted them to he Fleetline before the Sani trip,

as coming home in the dead of night, they avoided a few collisions with stray animals.

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Re: T2 Head light conversion

Post by sean » Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:35 pm

retrovan wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:48 am
Just as a matter of fact,

All my vw's have them fitted, and I was extremely thankful I fitted them to he Fleetline before the Sani trip,

as coming home in the dead of night, they avoided a few collisions with stray animals.

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You fitted Golf headlights onto your fleetline?

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Re: T2 Head light conversion

Post by retrovan » Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:40 pm

sean wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:35 pm
retrovan wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:48 am
Just as a matter of fact,

All my vw's have them fitted, and I was extremely thankful I fitted them to he Fleetline before the Sani trip,

as coming home in the dead of night, they avoided a few collisions with stray animals.

Herman
You fitted Golf headlights onto your fleetline?
Yes .. and you did not even notice when you saw the Fleetline at Sani,

Have a look at the Fleetline thread and see if you can notice its not original .... :wink:

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Will take some close ups of the head light if you ask nicely .. :roll:

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