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Crank end play
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:17 pm
by SUZIE
How much or how little crank end play should the aircooled engine have?
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:41 pm
by vader
enough to stop it from seizing but not enough for it to destroy the insides!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:01 pm
by SUZIE
Okay but shoud ypu beable to feel the play by hand or not?
Crankshaft end play.
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:46 pm
by Dawie
Think end play should be 0.07 to 0.13, with a wear limit of 0.15mm.
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:48 pm
by vader
so yes you should be able to feel it by hand.. But I stand under correction.
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:03 am
by calooker
If you feel any end play then it's too much endplay.
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:46 am
by Tony Z
I built my last engine with 0.1mm and you cannot feel that by hand.
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:40 am
by forcecooled
Even if U think U can feel it ---Its too much. Set it up with a dial indicator gauge, and there must be 3 shims in place. 1 or 2 is no good. -must be 3 !
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:46 am
by calooker
I aquired a ride some years back with engine end play in excess of 5mm and yes it was running, leaked oil like a sive, you did not need to feel the end play you could actually see it when you reved the motor you could actually see the pulley moving bacwards and fowards, it's amazing the abuse the little aircooled motor can take.
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:55 pm
by SUZIE
Thanks for all the info, then I can say my engine has no endplay, or atleast not than I can feel with the hand
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:25 pm
by vader
Anyone seen the new Subaru's they look like a mazda3 and an Alfa 156.... The suck.. But the new Honda Civic is so sexy!!!
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:09 pm
by Tony Z
If you engine has no endplay, you can kiss it goodbye, it wont last long and when things warm up it will seize. And yes 3 shims is a must, 4 is allowed (many may dispute this, but it might even be better - but how much better can you get than something which is already 100%?) but 2 or 1 shim is a definite NO NO.
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:51 pm
by SUZIE
Hi Tony
Is there any spec how thick the shims should be, and were do they sit and how do i get to them?
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:09 pm
by Tony Z
you can buy kits of 10 shims of different sizes. The original VW ones are stamped with their sizes on them, for the others, you need a micrometer. Try contact Volkspares in Durban they will prob have, if not put a post in the wanted section on this forum or I can sterr you towards the guy I got mine from in the USA.
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:47 pm
by hitlers revenge
Hey Tony, Do you trust Vader sending you the correct parts!!!!!!!!! lol