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Lowering the rear suspension.....

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:57 pm
by natbro
What is the best way to do it on a bug, adjusting the splines or fitting lowered spring plates?

as in...
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from these guys...

http://www.red9design.com/loweredspringplates.htm

What are the advantages and disadvantages of each?

Thanks

Re: Lowering the rear suspension.....

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:37 am
by SUZIE
i will go with the kit to do it, were do you get the kit?

Re: Lowering the rear suspension.....

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:55 am
by Pine
First time I see those spring plates, but it look perfect for the job!

Re: Lowering the rear suspension.....

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:21 am
by calooker
There is better than that available, that are fully adjustable I have a set and are available on import only.
Rui 0828306493

Re: Lowering the rear suspension.....

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:47 am
by natbro
calooker wrote:There is better than that available, that are fully adjustable I have a set and are available on import only.
Rui 0828306493
So what would a set put you back?

Re: Lowering the rear suspension.....

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:53 am
by SUZIE
Rui, do you have a picture of the set that you have?
calooker wrote:There is better than that available, that are fully adjustable I have a set and are available on import only.
Rui 0828306493

Re: Lowering the rear suspension.....

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:34 am
by calooker
Thes dudes make quite a few bulshit statements to try and sell their stuff.
Quote"With the lowered spring plates you maintain the standard ride quality and suspension travel". where does the drop go to then?
Quote" You also benefit from improved handling due to the reduced ride height without affecting the carring capacity." any lowered ride has better handling, but not affecting carring capacity, realy???
Quote " These lowered spring plates do not require shorter or uprated shocks and all other standard parts are retained" a stock shock can take a 50mm drop no problem, what is their point?
Quote "Forget turning your original spring plates..." it's a shit load cheaper for the same effect and the same ammount of work retaining the originals.
Quote "-Your car is unstable when cornering-" That is a standard swing axle feature, DUH!!!!
Quote "-You can't take your mates anywhere because your suspension bottoms out -" what are the bump stops for then?
Quote "-Forget adjustable spring plates... - They are too much money!!! " Yes, good sale pitch, bulshit.
Quote "You are paying for something that you don't need (Adjustability) " No comment!!!!

It seems that thier sales pitch is based on how bad the adjustable spring plates are rather then telling Joe public how good their bulshit system is.
What a lot of crap, I can't beleive they are prepared to put it up on their site.

Btw a set of adjustable set from the US landed here cost me R1150

Re: Lowering the rear suspension.....

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:17 pm
by Tony Z
I am with Calloker on this one.... why do you want to remove your stock items and fit new ones that cost a small fortune when you can just remove and refit your stock items at a different height, without costing you a cent....

Re: Lowering the rear suspension.....

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:23 pm
by eben
Am I the only one thinking that the tension in the torsion bar will actually be the "stock" tension if you use this? Which should be better for handling... also because the toe-in won't be affected that much either.... Don't know about the price though..

It should result in a stiffer lowered suspension shouldn't it?

Re: Lowering the rear suspension.....

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:20 pm
by IMPI
The only advantage to one of those would be that the starting and ending points for spring plate travel stay the same or almost the same as stock The advantage to that is that the stops will limit downward travel of the springplate thus limiting positive camber when cornering (the same result can be had by welding a stop to the springplate carrier.
I personally have only used std springplates and will continue to do so
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