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Re: Some thoughts on cams

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:21 am
by flatfourfan
Pierre I won't say no to that man, thanks. I'm only going to be able to go there after the 24th though as my cash reserves are pretty low to say the least after my recent buying spree.

What's the specs on the W120?

Re: Some thoughts on cams

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:40 am
by Bugger
Will go pick up my cam Borrowed it to someone else to and will scan the spec sheet and post it here for all to see

Will try and get the sheet for the W110 also

Re: Some thoughts on cams

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:47 am
by flatfourfan
awesome..............

Re: Some thoughts on cams

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:55 am
by Tony Z

Re: Some thoughts on cams

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:12 am
by flatfourfan
W-120 294º 253º 0,397" 10,08 108º Hot street; large displacement; off-road comp???

Just read the top, these are all type 1 cams.....................

Is it the smae for type 4?

Re: Some thoughts on cams

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:17 am
by Tony Z
the W120 is not a T4 cam. Even though you can copy the design onto a T4 blank, it wasnt designed for the T4. There are quite a few cams listed as T4 cams, you just need to page thru the lot. Webcam, Pauter, Fat....

Re: Some thoughts on cams

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:20 am
by Tony Z
ok, maybe not.... the websites are listed, go thru them and see what the specs are for the T4 cams that people supply.
Webcam has a few grinds for sale. You can always do something similar, like using a W110 inlet and a W120 exh grind.....

Re: Some thoughts on cams

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:41 pm
by Bugger
Relax old Man :D We Know its for t1 but will be copied on a t4 cam
Mine is going in to a Wbx 2.1 for torq

Re: Some thoughts on cams

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:46 pm
by flatfourfan
okay...............explained...........but did I read right 294º???

Re: Some thoughts on cams

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:07 pm
by Bugger
Yes but @ .050 lift its actually 253 duration
Well this is the cam most of the guys said will wotk with my WBX you might want to have the W110 270 duration
I`m fitting a C25 in Allens 1835 =272
I will also probably end up with around 300cc more than you when I build my 82mmX95mm motor

Choices choices :D

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Re: Some thoughts on cams

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:16 pm
by Tony Z
and another thought..... the W series cams were made for the T1 with its 1.1:1 rockers. They can (and do ) run very well on 1.25:1 rockers. The T4 has a 1.3:1 rocker ratio.
Ratio rockers are supposed to reduce the movement of the valve train and make up the opening distance of the valve by its ratio. Going too high on a combo will accelerate the valve faster than safe design and wear things out quicker. Dont forget to check that the springs will open far enough to accept the W120 and a 1.3:1 rocker....
Food for thought, use it, dont use it.... ;-)

Re: Some thoughts on cams

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:20 am
by forcecooled
Good points !

Re: Some thoughts on cams

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:07 pm
by vader
So now what will an engle 110 cam do for you? I know its mild but what does it mean preformance wise fuel ecconomy

Re: Some thoughts on cams

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:14 pm
by Tony Z
all depends on engine size, carburation, exhaust, CR.... its all in the combo. 110 will be good for a 1915 with limited breathing ability. 120 needs 1 throat per cylinder on that engine size.

Re: Some thoughts on cams

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:25 am
by vader
So the questions that need to be asked are as follows

Engine Size -
Crank Stroke -
Number of Carb's -
Size of Carbs -
Exhaust Type ( 4into1 or 4into2 or 4into2into1) Exhaust type also effects power -
Size of Exhaust od -
Heads SP or TP -
CR -
Valve Size -
Deck Height -