Aircooled VW South Africa

The 411,'67 1500 Beetle, Type 3 Auto, 1302/1302s,Some Ghias,Mexican and Brasilian Bugs and whichever others all had 4 stud drums at the back - Are the drums and backing plates all interchangeable?Are they the same?

And what is the PCD please. I would also like to know.

PCD is 4x130

yes blitz ,the backing plates and the drums are exactly the same diameter on the four stud drums as on the 5hole drums ,

I am not 100% on this one but the rear drum on the 411 is a diff. design to the others, the T3 has a wider drum than the 1302/3 or 67 bug so no they are all diff but share the same PCD

buggyfan wrote:yes blitz ,the backing plates and the drums are exactly the same diameter on the four stud drums as on the 5hole drums ,

calooker wrote:I am not 100% on this one but the rear drum on the 411 is a diff. design to the others, the T3 has a wider drum than the 1302/3 or 67 bug so no they are all diff but share the same PCD

This is getting a bit confusing

In spite of all of them being different, would they all bolt onto the 5 lug backing plates?

From TheSamba-

Bobnotch wrote:411 drums are the same as t-3 drums. If you're converting from 5 lug to 4 lug, then you'll also need the hub, but if you've already got 4 lugs, then you'll just need the drums. Brake shoes are the same also.

The 70's T3 & 411 drum is a diff. design to the beetle wide 5 drum and are not interchangable.
70's T3 & 411 drum fits onto a hud (like the rear of a golf, as a example, no splines on the drum) while the early wide 5 for beetle, 1967 4x1300 and wide 5 T3 pre 1969 all fit over a splined axle (splines on the drum).
I have used a 4x130 1967 rear drum on a 1971 wide 5 rear no problem, also used rear T3 wide 5 on a 1974 wide 5 beetle but you need to use the backing plates, shoes and all hardware from the T3, it's a bolt on.
The 70's T3 style hubs were only available in some of the last Automatic Fastbacks in SA

Thanks for the input Rui