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Starters 2

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:57 pm
by lowlight
got an idea but not shure. The engine dont want to turn normally when try to start. sometimes it turn and start, sometimes it turns like the battery is flat sometimes it just stuck like making klick. Then it surnes nice again. OK Changed 6V to 12V starter.Changed the bush someoddy turned a bush out of that brass oily things as the shafts differ. :?

Re: Starters 2

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:13 pm
by Tony Z
if you put a spanner onto the pulley nut and turn, does it turn easily or do you need to force it?
When you changed the 6V starter for a 12V one, did you change all the electrics also - is the battery also 12V?

Re: Starters 2

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:39 pm
by lowlight
Was already 12V but 6 Vstarter and fly wheel . New engine 12V Flywheel and decide to go 12V starter, change the bushes to fit 12Vstarter.

Re: Starters 2

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:48 pm
by Tony Z
try turn the pulley. If its hard to turn, its a seized engine.
Ask Vader... he once had a dead battery and a dead starter because the engine wouldnt crank over, if it did, it was damn slow.
Turned out to be the end of yet another Dark Side engine.

Re: Starters 2

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:54 am
by vader
Hay hay hay.....

To true!! If the starter has be refurbished (new bushes, brushes, blablabla) and the battery is in good working order AND you have checked your Earth (Battery -, Gearbox -) Then also make sure that the new Flywheel aint eating the bell housing. Also make sure that the starter is drawing the correct amount of current, if not have a relay fitted between the starter and the battery to boost the current.....

I think you got a $%#@#$%&&&%$#@#$ motor.... Sorry....

Re: Starters 2

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:58 pm
by Bugger
lowlight wrote:got an idea but not shure. The engine dont want to turn normally when try to start. sometimes it turn and start, sometimes it turns like the battery is flat sometimes it just stuck like making klick. Then it surnes nice again. OK Changed 6V to 12V starter.Changed the bush someoddy turned a bush out of that brass oily things as the shafts differ. :?
Is the starter OK coz it sounds like the starter if the motor statrssometimes and run fine

The conversion bush was it made out of oil Light material and did you force the oil through it with your fingers to lube it
For me it sounds like the starter

Re: Starters 2

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:34 pm
by Tom Bishop
vader wrote:Hay hay hay.....

, if not have a relay fitted between the starter and the battery to boost the current.....

I think you got a $%#Blocked#$%&&&%$#Blocked#$ motor.... Sorry....
The Starter is connected directly to battery, it can not take a shorter route. Thats where the thick cable on the + side of the battery goes to. The solonoid also acts as a relay. Your ignition switch goes to the solonoid not the starter.

My experience with starters sometimes working fine now and then not:

Battery on its way out.
corroded terminals both battery or starter side.
ignition timing out

Cheers

Re: Starters 2

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:58 am
by lowlight
Sorted the starter problem. Bush.Thanks everybody.

Re: Starters 2

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:15 pm
by Rudi02
Glad you found the problem.

Re: Starters 2

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:58 pm
by vader
Tom Bishop wrote:
vader wrote:Hay hay hay.....

, if not have a relay fitted between the starter and the battery to boost the current.....

I think you got a $%#Blocked#$%&&&%$#Blocked#$ motor.... Sorry....
The Starter is connected directly to battery, it can not take a shorter route. Thats where the thick cable on the + side of the battery goes to. The solonoid also acts as a relay. Your ignition switch goes to the solonoid not the starter.

My experience with starters sometimes working fine now and then not:

Battery on its way out.
corroded terminals both battery or starter side.
ignition timing out

Cheers
With my Ford.....well ok its a Ford... I was having voltage problems, starter would drag, I took it to the Auto Electrician and they fitted a relay to the circuit which solved the problem. Starter swings freely....