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Re: 14 year old build

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Lots of hard work happening behind the Scene's, keep it up.

The beam looks good, but now you have to cut again! aarghh.
Dave, afaik, the disk brakes and adapters make the wheels stand "out", narrowing the beam brings them back to stock locations.
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1972 wrote:Ok after a long debate between me and someone in the USA who is a BTS restorer (BTS=back to stock),my beam will be getting narrowed by 6" this will pull the wheels in just enough so they dont sit on the edge of the fenders lip (if our measurements are correct).Please before going on about what i am going to say please note this debate of me trying to explain that my beam didnt need to be narrowed has been going on for over a month now.i eventually added the measurements up together and found out i was fighting i battle i wouldnt win.......
Hectic dude...

This beam narrowing business is all new to me - I thought it was a style thing that people liked. Once the beam is narrowed, will your wheels (or the centre line of the wheels) be back where the originals were, or will they be inset slightly?
yes the wheels should sit more or less back were they used to be,from what i could understand the wheels sat on the lip of the fender the wheels once narrowed they would then be pulled into the fenders 8 cm it is more or less logic if you cut 8 cm off each tube you pull the wheels in by 8cm. make sence?
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Re: 14 year old build

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karmakoma wrote:Lots of hard work happening behind the Scene's, keep it up.

The beam looks good, but now you have to cut again! aarghh.
Thanks Karma

yes it will have to be cut again, the beam is the easiest part of the whole process, its the leafs inside the beam that have to be cut and have new dimples drilled into them and that must be the hardest part of all.
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just finnished narrowing beam next will be the leafs.
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Just tack everything you need back on and bring it past me and I wil Weld it all together for you again with my Mig welder for Mahala as you have brought the beam to me for lowerring, so as a Back up service I will help you :wink:
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Bugger wrote:Just tack everything you need back on and bring it past me and I wil Weld it all together for you again with my Mig welder for Mahala as you have brought the beam to me for lowerring, so as a Back up service I will help you :wink:
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So not much happened on beam the templates have been made for the support between the tubes and will be lazer cut and will continue with the beam on wednesday once we have moved house and the body and pan are in storage.Once the beam is done and new tie rod assemblies have been shortened (yes another part that needs to be shortened), everything will sit for the long wait till i have saved up enought to buy a 1600 engine and send it to IMPI to have very exiting list of things he gave me done on it :hangloose: .
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So not much of an Update, The beam is going to be pulled out of storage this afternoon and then will see if i marked the metal for the gussets correctly,then it will at last be able to go to Bugger who offered to weld them in..Then found out that i dont have to drill and retap the grease nipples,as they arnt nessesary.So all that has to still be done on the front beam is

Cut and then have the gussets welded in.
Have the beam cleaned out, sandblasted and sprayed in two tone Ruby red and lotus white.
Get full lenght uerathane bushings, so I dont have to run shocks.
Either refurb or get new Tie rod assemblies.
Have the King and Link pins sorted once the other spindle and carrier gets back from the powdercoaters.
Have a set of adaptors lazer cut and tapped to take the pcd from 4X100 to the wide 5
And have a look and see if i can get a refurbished or maybe a new steering box


But other than that, I have come to realise that im not going to be 14 forever Image So I am going to at last change the name of the build to something that more to the car and something that doesnt have to be changed every year Image But since she still doesnt have a name i decided to call her Toy 1 Image

So at last she has a name


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Re: The re-Birth of Toy 1 (I cant be 14 forever)

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Hi Shane

Do you know what the mechanics of the full length urethane bushings are? i.e. why do they allow you to not run shocks - provide some resistance to movement or something...? I'm still considering my options for lowering - not too keen on not running shocks...

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Re: The re-Birth of Toy 1 (I cant be 14 forever)

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davetapson wrote:Hi Shane

Do you know what the mechanics of the full length urethane bushings are? i.e. why do they allow you to not run shocks - provide some resistance to movement or something...? I'm still considering my options for lowering - not too keen on not running shocks...

Cheers
Dave

Dave i was just given a list of things I would have to do, but will ask and get back to you...
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Re: The re-Birth of Toy 1 (I cant be 14 forever)

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Come now Boet,you need to do something now and post some pics! :wink:
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1972 wrote:But other than that, I have come to realise that im not going to be 14 forever
Why not? I'm 18 till I die... :hangloose:
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Re: The re-Birth of Toy 1 (I cant be 14 forever)

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davetapson wrote:Hi Shane

Do you know what the mechanics of the full length urethane bushings are? i.e. why do they allow you to not run shocks - provide some resistance to movement or something...? I'm still considering my options for lowering - not too keen on not running shocks...

Cheers
Dave
Dave to answer your Q here is what i got back...

Yes, the urethanes provide friction to control the movment of the suspension.


Shockless is fine...They ride just as good as the same set-up with shocks.
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Pine wrote:
1972 wrote:But other than that, I have come to realise that im not going to be 14 forever
Why not? I'm 18 till I die... :hangloose:
Image very funny Pine
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