Porsche Fuchs - the Design history

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Porsche Fuchs - the Design history

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The Design History of Porsche Fuchs as seen here http://www.togobeyond.net/porschefuch.html

Design History of the Fuchs.

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Otto Fuchs Metallwerke had made forged wheels for armored military vehicles for Porsche during the war. So it made sense for Porsche to contact the same company when they came up with the idea of creating light alloy wheels for their 911 production car in the mid-60's. Fuchs representative Herr Kretsch offered Porsche something beyond their expectations, though: the possibility of mass-producing a high quality forged alloy wheel.

Nothing on this scale had ever been attempted in Germany.

Heinrich Klie of the Porsche model department (the early version of the styling studio) was given the task of styling the wheel. He became the 'father' of the Fuchs wheel. He is also responsible for a number of 911 design details, including the complete dashboard.as well as designing the 914

Klie and his team were given no precise instructions for the wheel, so he simply went to work with Plasticine modeling clay and came up with a design. Where styling assignments would typically involve weeks of trial and error, changes, and new revisions, this wasn't the case with the Fuchs wheel. The first model was shown to Ferry Porsche, who approved it "with a wave of a hand," according to Klie.

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It then went to the suspension design department, where engineer Rudolf Hoffmann was responsible for the wheel's physical properties. Minor modifications were made.

From there, Fuchs chief engineer Karl-Heinz Ochel had to oversee a whole new process for manufacturing the wheel. 58 steps were required to make a single Fuchs wheel.

From Porsche 911: Forever Young, by Tobias Aichele "To be precise, the Fuchs wheel was formed by the following steps. A pressed piece of stock was forged to make a forging blank. Next, drop forging the blank produced the ventilation holes and deburred the flange. A further drop forging step resulted in a split flange, before the workpiece was widened by rolling. And here is the secret advantage of this complex manufacturing process: the Fuchs wheel stayed in production for so many years because it could be rolled to any width desired. The forming process resulted in a wheel with a completely finished inner side. The outer, visible side of the wheel was turned on special lathes, which resulted in the smallest possible wheel imbalance. A carefully developed surface finish -- polishing, anodizing, and painting -- permitted different design variations over the years and assured high corrosion resistance."

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After being tested directly on numerous cars, some very minor changes were made, and the wheels were offered on the 1967 models. There was some internal controversy in the company over the design itself, but the marketing people prevailed in support of the wheel, and history proved them correct. The wheel became a runaway success and remained a design fixture on the 911 for 20 years.

Paraphrased from Porsche 911: Forever Young, by Tobias Aichele:by Jack Olsen
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Thanks Tony, interesting read...

BUT

...Fuchs wheels are totally overrated. I think I should do my doctoral thesis on 'The psychology of Fuchs wheels based on a study of non-Porsche owners'.

Yes, they look cool. No.. actually TOTALLY cool, so cool that I actually went through a lot of trouble to get a set on my Bay a while ago myself. But WHY?

- Is it because they are featured on every second VW in a Volksworld or Ultra VW magazine?
- Is it because it is the closest one will ever get to owning one of Stuttgart's finest?
- Is it because they are quite hard to find?
- Is it because, if found, it is at a totally ridiculous price (the Fleetline principle)?
- Isn't it just a 'fashion' thing of current times? I mean - who still wear Gypsey boots and Oakley Frogskins and listen to Milli Vanilli?
- Is it an occurence in other car marques as well (Ferrari wheels on a X1/9, Corvette wheels on an Aveo, Hummer wheels on a Hilux etc.)?
- Do we like Fuchs because we like it, or because EVERYONE likes it?

Fire away on count of 3... :?
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I think its a good looking wheel. Classy, simple and neat, without the bling factor. In full chrome, they look shite.
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How 'bout colour coded? Works for a Carrera RS, but will it have the same effect on any other car?

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I don't know Pine, do you typically match your bags to your shoes and ensure you have the correct watch on?

when you go out, do you catch yourself looking, and admiring, yourself in the mirror more than your partner? If so, and you have coloured wheels to match you car, then sir you are a batter for another team.
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Precisely.

(BTW, I often put an unpair set of socks on, problem is I only realise it in the evening when I take my shoes off! :mrgreen:
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