brakes on a 1976 beetle.

Post by **eben** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:14 am

Do you guys know if this would work on a type III?

Or do the spindles and mountings differ?

Post by **calooker** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:41 pm

The stub axle for the T3 is different, the T1 disk mod will not work, the later auto T3 had disks if you can find a set it is a 100% swap, you can also use the disk from the 67 T1 ball-joint bug or T4 411/412.

hitlers revenge · Post by **hitlers revenge** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:19 pm

What is needed to do a disc brake conversion at the rear.

vader · Post by **vader** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:15 pm

Any rear Drum brake Beetle

vader · Post by **vader** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:18 pm

And the rear disk brake kit from cylinder head manufactures in jhb

ZeroAxe · Post by **ZeroAxe** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:59 pm

calooker wrote:Installing disks is easier than doing the standard drum thing, the kit will bolt on with no problems. Things that you need, in your case I would only do the front for now, it is much cheaper than the rear.

The parts needed are all Golf 1
:set of disks vented or solid (new solid is about R90 each)
:set of callipers second hand (so manny around you could get it for nothing, there are two types, they both work)
:set of new pads about R100

From the kit (contact me I can organise for you for R650)
:set of calliper plates
:set of hubs 4x100 or 5x100 PCD
:6 hex screws

You need to get a set of standard beetle seals, inner bearings and 2 custom outer bearings, grease and locktite.

It will take not more than 1 hour to fit each side. If you want to retain the original wide 5 beetle PCD you can get an adaptor plate for that. If you go for the 100 PCD you will need 2 adaptor plates for the rear about R450.

You can even use vented VR6 disks & callipers.
I have seen a Mazda 323 rwd & BMW E30 & E36 front disk & hub used on a beetle

Calooker,

So reading this post gives me some hope at least for the wife's Super's brakes. Out of curiosity I did a quick search on eBay for Golf 1 disks, and came across this auction where the guy states:

MK1 GOLF GTI 256MM BRAKE CALIPER AND CALIPER CARRIER UPGRADE

GREAT IF UPGRADING YOUR BRAKES FROM

239MM TO 256MM JUST FIT MK2 GOLF 256MM DISCS

AND JUST BOLT ON THE CALIPER ASSY

EASY AS THAT

Here is the auction... So my question is this... if the Golf 1 disks can be upgraded to Golf 2 disks, surely that means that the Golf 2 discs can also be used on a Bug?

Thanks for your input!

Merlin · Post by **Merlin** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:46 pm

ZeroAxe wrote:So my question is this... if the Golf 1 disks can be upgraded to Golf 2 disks, surely that means that the Golf 2 discs can also be used on a Bug

If Golf 2 can be fitted to the back, can they fit the front...in my case, in place of the stock '67 kit?

Post by **calooker** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:42 pm

Front ventilated disks work on both Golf 1 & 2 the larger disks may need mods to the calliper bracket but if they claim that the larger disks are bolt onto the Golf 2 axle then the same will apply on the calliper bracket I get for the beetle mod, never done it that way so I can't be sure.
The larger disk in the add seems to be VR6 size.

Merlin · Post by **Merlin** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:47 pm

I'd really like to show you the setup on my bug when you get a chance one day Rui...wondering if you know it's origins.

I have no idea what's on the back of my bug...presuming Mk 2 Golf.

I'd just prefer a matching set, and ventilated's always nice, although brakes have to wait...the bug's costing way too much.

VR6 is overkill imo.

N.

Post by **calooker** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:43 pm

VR6 would be way over kill for a bug, a VR6 golf probably has 30% more weight to bring it to standstill, than a bug, so I don't see the need for such big disks even if you are pushing big Hp. I know of rotary beetles with 300 Hp and more and the golf 1/2 brakes do the job. Its all about the load that needs to be stopped the heavier the ride the bigger the stopping power needed, a golf is heavier than a beetle, I hope this makes some sense. If you are circuit racing then big brakes make more sense as they have a larger surface for cooling/braking, for a road going ride stock golf on a bug is more than Ok.

Merlin · Post by **Merlin** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:01 pm

Sweet.

...but I still need to know wtF I've got bolted onto 'em. Hehe.

What bugs me is the availability of stock '67 kit.

That said, we've recently been lead to believe that my bug may have been an OG 1300.

It has, apparently, stock-type '67 discs up front, but everything there is new.

N.

ZeroAxe · Post by **ZeroAxe** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:18 pm

Calooker and Vader,

I would like to pick your brains as much as possible(and anyone else that can help) about this Golf disk swap... I got SO freaking frustrated this past weekend when I kept getting to dead ends for DETAILED info about this swap.... if you guys dont mind..

Post by **Bugger** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:37 pm

Ok what I know is that the GOLF Guys Use a spacer for the caliper and use VR6 vented discs but have to drill 4X100pcd reason being disc stays cooler longer for racing even street Racing

Here in SA the Mrk 2 2L 16v from +- 2000 model had bigger front disc`s but if you wanted to fit them you had to get the whole stub assy because of the bigger disc the caliper bracket was moulded further out wards but the caliper as far as I can remember stayd the same ?
What exactly do you want to do

Have you got GOLF/JETTA and want to upgrade brakes

Pierre

\/\/olfsburg\/\/olf · Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:53 am

hey all, just found this forum recently. Been thinking of upgrading front braking to discs recently and was wondering if the guys here with the contact(vader and calooker) are still active? and could you help me out?

natbro · Post by **natbro** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:36 pm

Welcome WW. Yes Vader and Calooker are still around

Aircooled VW South Africa

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