Type4 motor into a Brazillian Splitty

osvw · Post by **osvw** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:36 pm

We have just aquired a Brazillian Splitty, and would like to fit a 1700cc motor from one of our bay windows.
Has anybody done this before, any help appreciated.

Thks
Cumulus

...and before anybody shouts at me, i know I posted in the wrong forum first time round.
Sorry

Post by **fig** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:39 pm

Contact IMPI. He does an upright fan conversion for type4 engines. Otherwise, fitting a type4 engine in a split requires HACKING. Your bus will not thank you for it.

Post by **Pine** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:27 pm

On a few occasions I've actually seen the reverse - genuine factory VW engine tinware designed to fit an (upright) Type 1 engine into the much larger (Type 4) engine bay area of a late-model Type 2 Bus?

Post by **fig** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:17 pm

Type1 engines were an option on baywindow buses throughout production.

Merlin · Post by **Merlin** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:21 am

I was under the impression Type 4 engines only appeared in Bays from around '73 or so?

Post by **fig** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:07 am

Merlin wrote:I was under the impression Type 4 engines only appeared in Bays from around '73 or so?

Type4 engines were introduced in buses in August 1971, the start of the 1972 model year. Type1 engines were available in buses throughout the type4 era 72-81. In fact, in Europe, you could order a T3 bus with a type1 engine until the w/c diesel was introduced around 1982.

Blitzkrieg · Post by **Blitzkrieg** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:19 am

fig wrote:
Merlin wrote:I was under the impression Type 4 engines only appeared in Bays from around '73 or so?
Type4 engines were introduced in buses in August 1971, the start of the 1972 model year. Type1 engines were available in buses throughout the type4 era 72-81. In fact, in Europe, you could order a T3 bus with a type1 engine until the w/c diesel was introduced around 1982.

There was also a CT (code) engine that was used in T3 Transporters in Germany, looked very similiar to a Type 1 engine, but had a Type 4 style fan and some other differences...

Post by **calooker** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:11 am

If it's a 1700 it will fit with some hacking of the metal, depending on the exhaust it will mean that the rear vallance & bumper will also have to go, the exhaust can be modified to use the bumper. if the motor is out of a baywindow then it's unlikely to be a 1700 it is either a 1800 or a 2000
let us have the engine # and I can tell you what cc you have.
The 1800 will also fit but the 2000 will need the flywheel and clutch kit changed to the smaller 1800 or 1700 one.

You can see on the pic how the metal has been bent to fit the motor, this needs to be done on both sides and is not ideal due to the heat in the engine compartment which will cause overheating problems if the ride is used over long distances

Post by **IMPI** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:49 pm

I would think long and hard about this. An upright conversion might work out but depends on your intended use of the bus. I would use it stock first and then decide. reduction boxes are not kind to any motor.
Armand

osvw · Post by **osvw** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:29 pm

Thanks for the help. I appreciate it. Plan is not for speed, but to have a motor that will not slow down too much when going up the hills!
We are sure it is a 1700cc, the bay is even badged with the 1700 imprint on the dashboard.

The van is at the panelbeaters getting stripped to bare metal, new panels to be welded in, etc.