61 body on 71 pan

ricardo · Post by **ricardo** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:07 am

hello all... i am desperate for help. i have managed to get hold of a near perfect 61 type 1 body....... i am hoping to transfer this to my 71 floorpan... however, the fittings are slightly different, especially the rear suspension.

thus far i have removed the old body and have started to clean the floorpan....... do i have to cut out the rear suspension mounts on the 71 and re-attach them to the 61?????

please advise... i think i may have bitten off more than i can chew!!!!!

vuyo · Post by **vuyo** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:15 am

most guyz tell me that you can do a swap like that, i was thinking of doing it myself aswell. what are you going to do with the vin on the 60s pan because the 70s didint have a vin on the pan?

ricardo · Post by **ricardo** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:25 am

excuse my ignorance, but byvin, do you mean the vehicle identification number???

vuyo · Post by **vuyo** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:27 am

ricardo · Post by **ricardo** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:32 am

urm... i have no idea... i am really out of my depth bhere.... as you can see.

i was hoping to just swop the body and voila... a classic daily driver!!!!!!! all these deeeep considerations of which i was unaware... thank you for enlighteneing me...

just realized i may have to go to the police for a clearance etc!!!!

vuyo · Post by **vuyo** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:39 am

ye i think call the cops and see what they can do for you

Post by **calooker** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:55 am

The VIN was on the pan until 72/73

Post by **IMPI** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:12 pm

The only difference between the bodies (as far as mounting goes) is the brackets next to the rear shock towers. they need to be shortened to suit the later pan.
If your bug is already licenced just ignore the fact that you do not have a number on the pan as there is still a number in the spare wheel well which is perfectly adequate.
Armand

ricardo · Post by **ricardo** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:15 pm

thank yopu for the advice.... at least i won't have to go stand in a queue for ages at the local saps office.

my biggest concern is a strange contraption which runs from one side of the 71 pan to the other, through the body and connects to the body behind and above the shock mount.... this may be a stabilizer bar or something.

the 61 body does not have the attachment for this piece of kit...... unfortunately i do not have a picture to show y'all

vader · Post by **vader** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:50 pm

Take one then!

Blitzkrieg · Post by **Blitzkrieg** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:43 am

ricardo wrote:thank yopu for the advice.... at least i won't have to go stand in a queue for ages at the local saps office.

my biggest concern is a strange contraption which runs from one side of the 71 pan to the other, through the body and connects to the body behind and above the shock mount.... this may be a stabilizer bar or something.

the 61 body does not have the attachment for this piece of kit...... unfortunately i do not have a picture to show y'all

What you talking about is the Z-Bar

I think that only the late models had them fitted and the earlier models don't have the holes to fit them

My '67 also doesn't have the mountings to fit them

ricardo · Post by **ricardo** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:56 am

yes, it is the Z-bar (kafer-cup bar) This COOL product eliminates wheel hop and bent frame horns. Simple BOLT-ON installation fits all Beetle/Ghia rear suspension

however, i do not know if i need this on the car... most of the guys in beetle-cup racing remove it and weld something or other to the spring plate to restrict rear droop! whatever that means... someone please help here is a picture of the Z-bar[img][img]http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5267/zbar1xs1.th.jpg[/img][/img]

Post by **calooker** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:31 am

The Z-bar is to aid the suspension and prevent the wheels from tucking in during hard cornering, you can get yourself a sway bar that works better than the Z-bar and bolts to the underside of your tranny. You can get away without either provided you don't intend on doing any high speed hard cornering.

Blitzkrieg · Post by **Blitzkrieg** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:31 am

ricardo wrote:yes, it is the Z-bar (kafer-cup bar) This COOL product eliminates wheel hop and bent frame horns. Simple BOLT-ON installation fits all Beetle/Ghia rear suspension

however, i do not know if i need this on the car... most of the guys in beetle-cup racing remove it and weld something or other to the spring plate to restrict rear droop! whatever that means... someone please help here is a picture of the Z-bar[img][img]http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5267/zbar1xs1.th.jpg[/img][/img]

No, the Kafer cup bar is completely different from the Z bar

ricardo · Post by **ricardo** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:42 am

aaaaaahhhhh,....... i thought i finally got it... dammit.

i apologise for my ignorance again!

is there a supplier of the sway bar in sa????