Engine miss when hot
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Engine miss when hot
Hi all
I have a new addition to the family, a 1968 1500sp beetle which I am slowly sorting out.
The latest issue is a slight engine miss when cold, after the motor is warmed up, she runs like a bomb,
Any ideas on trouble shooting this?
I have a new addition to the family, a 1968 1500sp beetle which I am slowly sorting out.
The latest issue is a slight engine miss when cold, after the motor is warmed up, she runs like a bomb,
Any ideas on trouble shooting this?
Last edited by John Alves on Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:26 pm, edited 2 times in total.
No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway.
1958 1600 TP Karmann Ghia
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1968 1500 SP Beetle
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Re: Engine missing when cold
Check your manifold heat risers. They are probably blocked.
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Re: Engine missing when cold
aftermarket exhausts sometimes have ports for the heat risers, but they are usually designed wrong and dont allow flow, so they block with carbon
also, check for vacuum leaks
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Re: Engine missing when cold
choke is working, heat risers are blocked off, my other two air cooled cars don't have heat risers and have no issue ????
I have checked for vacuum leaks, will check again
did all the usual when I bought the car, points gap, valve gaps new plugs, set timing, replaced dizzy cap with one I had lying about.
could it be a sticking valve which loosens up with heat?
I have checked for vacuum leaks, will check again
did all the usual when I bought the car, points gap, valve gaps new plugs, set timing, replaced dizzy cap with one I had lying about.
could it be a sticking valve which loosens up with heat?
No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway.
1958 1600 TP Karmann Ghia
1968 1600 TP Beamish buggy
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Re: Engine missing when cold
try advancing your timing 2-3 degrees
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Re: Engine missing when cold
thanks Tony that did the trick
No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway.
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Re: Engine missing when cold
Worked for a while and them came back with vengeance, I replaced the dizzy and coil from my other ride and all is 100% now.
Could it be a faulty Chinese condenser? I don't have a spare condenser as all my other rides have been converted to electronic pick up
Could it be a faulty Chinese condenser? I don't have a spare condenser as all my other rides have been converted to electronic pick up
No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway.
1958 1600 TP Karmann Ghia
1968 1600 TP Beamish buggy
1968 1500 SP Beetle
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1968 1500 SP Beetle
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Re: Engine missing when cold
Bash the sides of the condenser with the flat side of a spanner, and it will work again,
Till you can get a Bosch condenser from Diesel Electric.
Herman
Till you can get a Bosch condenser from Diesel Electric.
Herman
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Re: Engine missing when cold
The saga continues, I now have a minor miss when cold, runs ok for about 20min and then miss comes back when engine is warm, It feels like a total loss of power but for such a short time and not steady, I connected a multi meter to the coil positive and ground and as the miss happens so the voltage drops to about 10v then back up again,
Is this an indication of a intermittent short on the coil power wire or could the voltage drop also be caused by something else?
Is this an indication of a intermittent short on the coil power wire or could the voltage drop also be caused by something else?
No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway.
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1968 1600 TP Beamish buggy
1968 1500 SP Beetle
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Re: Engine missing when cold
Still sounds like a condenser.
Or bash the bottom of the condenser with the round edge of a 19 spanner to dent it.
But to be sure, fit a blue Bosch coil
Herman
Or bash the bottom of the condenser with the round edge of a 19 spanner to dent it.
But to be sure, fit a blue Bosch coil
Herman
1952 Split Beetle 1835cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
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1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
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1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
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Re: Engine missing when cold
not using a condensor I switched to a working dizzy with igniter system
No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway.
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Re: Engine missing when cold
ignitor system isnt reliable
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Re: Engine missing when cold
I know, but this one was taken from my ghia and is working
No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway.
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Re: Engine missing when cold
May be incorrect coil for the ignition, try moving the coil from the Ghia with the unit and try again.
Herman
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1952 Split Beetle 1835cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc