suicyde engine

Post by **Tony Z** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:43 pm

where do you see a notch? No, sorry, no notches there

Post by **calooker** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:50 am

Early 3 bolt cam config. ?
Lube on the lobes ?

Post by **Tony Z** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:51 pm

No none of those either... I thought you may have got it on your first guess....
I'll give you guys a few more days

Post by **Bugger** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:12 pm

The base of the cam looks thicker than std is this a special cast billet

I had a cam snap right where it is thin at the cam gear

Post by **Tony Z** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:41 am

if it is, I never noticed that....
compare it to the one you have sitting on your shelf...

Post by **calooker** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:22 am

Cam has flat edges and not complete round shaft between the bearing faces, probably to clear the crank/rods.

Post by **Tony Z** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:07 pm

Yes, it does. That is used to ensure the rods clear the cam... however there is nothing trick about that, its common knowledge that the cam can/should be grinded in that area if you are stroking to 82 or 84.

So no, that not the item I am making you guys look for.

Bad Ass Bob · Post by **Bad Ass Bob** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:48 pm

Isnt the thrust side of the cam on the centre lobe ??????????????????B.A.B

Post by **Tony Z** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:37 pm

NO, same place as stock, 1st bearing closest the cam gear

Post by **Bugger** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:51 pm

Ok No I fooled around long enough is that a 3 bolt conviguration that takes the bigger oil pump as it looks as if the cam gear is also diferent than a normal 3 bolt type

Post by **Tony Z** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:58 pm

what is different about the cam gear? I think yo umay be onto something here.... (is that a big enough hint?)
It is a 3 bolt gear that uses the same oil pump as any late model case. For the bigger pump, the are built outwards, so you have to extend the bolts if the pump is bigger.

Post by **Bugger** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:25 pm

Tony Z wrote:

OK guys... look at this picture. Now pull out your stock cam and look closely.
And please dont comment about the profile of the cam lobes, thats not it either.

Ok last time we chated and you said it was a limited amount that was made of this specific item

Well could that be a inbetween cam gear meaning the angle of the gear is differint than stock looking at the pic on the PC it looks slightly angled not angled as much as a stock cam gear

Post by **Tony Z** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:50 pm

Finally
after 10 pages we have hit the mysterious item....

Yes that cam gear was made in a limited numebr a few years ago. From the story I was given, it cost the manufacturer too much to warrent selling them at a competitive price, so they stopped production.

The gear is in fact not at the same angle as a stock helical gear, but is pretty much half way between a stock angle and a straight cut gear. Meaning less side thrust, without the noise of a straight cut gear. And the thrust pressure is then further reduced by the full circle thrust bearing. Meaning that 4 times the spring pressure equates to roughly stock side thrust. Freeing up more HP (less than a straight cut) but still remaining quite (unlike most straight cuts)

Post by **Bugger** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:12 pm

Tony Z wrote:I expected better from you.... you'll kick yourself when you realise it... 1 item in specific that isnt found very often

You are damn well right about kicking your self and Never knew they made that and it is not easy to pick something up if you do not know about it but now we do

and not 10 pages only 5 back you ask the Q

F@ck at last

Post by **Tony Z** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:19 pm

Bugger wrote:
Tony Z wrote:

and not 10 pages only 5 back you ask the Q

F@ck at last

huh???????? 4th post page 1 and 1st post page 3