Some thoughts on cams
- Tony Z
- Donor
- Posts: 15008
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:33 am
- What model do you have?: 2.3L 69; 1302; P/Van
- Location: Klipheuwel (near Durbanville), Cape Town or working at sea
- Has thanked: 192 times
- Been thanked: 488 times
Re: Some thoughts on cams
not really. You build an engine according to your needs then once its all figured out, decide on a cam to tie it all together.
- 2BugMe
- Oil Pump
- Posts: 265
- Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:00 pm
- What model do you have?: 1974 Type1
- Location: Faery Glen, Pretoria
- Been thanked: 2 times
Re: Some thoughts on cams
Now that is the comment i was waiting to hear for a very long time...Tony Z wrote:not really. You build an engine according to your needs then once its all figured out, decide on a cam to tie it all together.

Although Vader did get em thinking and mayb its not all bad to start some where as im sure there is a proven process in building a motor.. ( im a process kinda guy...

So the cam brings everything together....
So where can i ask advice on where to start builing a
twin carb - 40mm Solex
1649 (69x88) displacement
stock heads and valves (mild head flow and polish) - maybe bigger exhaust
W110 (430 lift, 284 Durtion)
4 into 1 exhaust with PowerFlow freeflow mufler
CR 8:1 ( for reliability )
engine

tx
Drive fast, Drive safe, Have Fun
- Tony Z
- Donor
- Posts: 15008
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:33 am
- What model do you have?: 2.3L 69; 1302; P/Van
- Location: Klipheuwel (near Durbanville), Cape Town or working at sea
- Has thanked: 192 times
- Been thanked: 488 times
Re: Some thoughts on cams
ask it in the advice section.... start a new topic
you are wasting you money on the 88mm kit
you are wasting you money on the 88mm kit
ANGRRR
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=14775
1302S
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=33521
Panel Van
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopic.php?p=288723
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=14775
1302S
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=33521
Panel Van
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopic.php?p=288723
vader wrote: The Force is strong with you young Sith Lord Z!
- vader
- ACVWSA Junkie
- Posts: 6465
- Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:17 am
- What model do you have?: TieFighter
- Location: Help!I don't know where I am. Its dark & I can hear voices...
- Has thanked: 9 times
- Been thanked: 10 times
Re: Some thoughts on cams
I have gone to a 1917cc std full counter weighted crank with 94mm pistons... So much more fun...
"My other ride is your SeatCover! & She loves it!"
Sometimes you'r the statue, sometimes your the pigeon.
"Only the dead go free..." Roger Waters.
"You do not understand the power of the DarkSide" Darth Vader.
Sometimes you'r the statue, sometimes your the pigeon.
"Only the dead go free..." Roger Waters.
"You do not understand the power of the DarkSide" Darth Vader.
-
- Drive Train
- Posts: 3004
- Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:07 am
- What model do you have?: FUmobile
- Location: It doesn't matter.
- Been thanked: 1 time
Re: Some thoughts on cams
That is what I wanted to say, but I didnt want to sound like the negative one.... TAG Tony, you're it!Tony Z wrote:ask it in the advice section.... start a new topic
you are wasting you money on the 88mm kit

VW Enthusiast








- 2BugMe
- Oil Pump
- Posts: 265
- Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:00 pm
- What model do you have?: 1974 Type1
- Location: Faery Glen, Pretoria
- Been thanked: 2 times
Re: Some thoughts on cams
ok ok Tony and Axe..
Just for the record i purchased a very goor nearly new 88 barrel set for R1000...
So please enlighten me as to why i wasted my bucks...
ps: I did have a set of 94's imported from US but has to sell those due to financial needs ..
i will start a thread soon for you guys to have a field day with the rookies...lol
Thanks for the advice...
Just for the record i purchased a very goor nearly new 88 barrel set for R1000...


So please enlighten me as to why i wasted my bucks...
ps: I did have a set of 94's imported from US but has to sell those due to financial needs ..
i will start a thread soon for you guys to have a field day with the rookies...lol

Thanks for the advice...
Drive fast, Drive safe, Have Fun
- Ron&Gill
- Full-time Bug Nutter
- Posts: 4054
- Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:16 am
- What model do you have?: Type 1, 21b, 34, 316
- Location: St Lucia KZN/Cameron LA
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 21 times
Re: Some thoughts on cams
I wouldn't say it's a waste of money. You can have a very good result with a nicely set up 1600. I would go for a Engle 110 though, or equivalent. I also had good results with 1:1.25 rockers on a standard cam. I did multiple mods to my buggy motor, all had results, some better than others. I wrote an article about it some time ago where I compared what I did to what the professionals did, step by step, when I'm home next, I'll post it. It discusses the mods, the power outputs, (I used to kuier at Windsor motors) carbs, dizzies, exhausts etc. One of the things I found was the "myth"-application of the 009 distributor. I was told that it was the best thing since sliced bread and it added power and to put it on my standard 1600 twin port... Of course it doesn't, and as long as you are running a motor with a good vacuum signal, avoid the 009. It has it's applications, but they seldom apply to cars that are "daily drivers". Tom found the same and he binned his, I think he was so disgusted, he didn't even sell it on! hehe...
1964 T34 - The Razor: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10290
1956 T2 1b - Gill's bus: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10948
1967 T316 - viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10931 & viewtopic.php?f=23&t=15977
2000 beach buggy - viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10915
1956 T2 1b - Gill's bus: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10948
1967 T316 - viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10931 & viewtopic.php?f=23&t=15977
2000 beach buggy - viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10915
- 2BugMe
- Oil Pump
- Posts: 265
- Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:00 pm
- What model do you have?: 1974 Type1
- Location: Faery Glen, Pretoria
- Been thanked: 2 times
Re: Some thoughts on cams
Thanks Ron...
Unfortuanatley i bought / impoted all my goodies for use with 94 barrels and a W110 is exactly what i have... So in essemce i wanted to build a 1914, but as life may have had it i had to sell and now own 88's.
So ill have to make the best of what i got.
What RPM can i expect with a W110 cam?? (obviously the heads will have work done to them)
and what followers must i use?? ( the Empi drilled ones seem to be the right choice there???)
Would High Ratio Rockers give me added RPM or would that be an ver kill.
He Ron, i would appreciate a copy of your article man
Please PM me
Thanks guys...
Adriaan
Unfortuanatley i bought / impoted all my goodies for use with 94 barrels and a W110 is exactly what i have... So in essemce i wanted to build a 1914, but as life may have had it i had to sell and now own 88's.

So ill have to make the best of what i got.
What RPM can i expect with a W110 cam?? (obviously the heads will have work done to them)
and what followers must i use?? ( the Empi drilled ones seem to be the right choice there???)
Would High Ratio Rockers give me added RPM or would that be an ver kill.
He Ron, i would appreciate a copy of your article man

Please PM me
Thanks guys...


Adriaan
Drive fast, Drive safe, Have Fun
-
- ACVWSA Junkie
- Posts: 10784
- Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:41 am
- What model do you have?: none
- Location: Johannesburg
- Has thanked: 91 times
- Been thanked: 44 times
Re: Some thoughts on cams
Please start a new thread in Advice2BugMe wrote:
Please PM me

If it's too low, you're too old 

- Tony Z
- Donor
- Posts: 15008
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:33 am
- What model do you have?: 2.3L 69; 1302; P/Van
- Location: Klipheuwel (near Durbanville), Cape Town or working at sea
- Has thanked: 192 times
- Been thanked: 488 times
Re: Some thoughts on cams
dittoBlitzkrieg wrote:
Please start a new thread in Advice
ANGRRR
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=14775
1302S
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=33521
Panel Van
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopic.php?p=288723
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=14775
1302S
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopi ... 23&t=33521
Panel Van
http://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopic.php?p=288723
vader wrote: The Force is strong with you young Sith Lord Z!
- vader
- ACVWSA Junkie
- Posts: 6465
- Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:17 am
- What model do you have?: TieFighter
- Location: Help!I don't know where I am. Its dark & I can hear voices...
- Has thanked: 9 times
- Been thanked: 10 times
Re: Some thoughts on cams
Tony Z wrote:dittoBlitzkrieg wrote:
Please start a new thread in Advice
Ditto that!!!









"My other ride is your SeatCover! & She loves it!"
Sometimes you'r the statue, sometimes your the pigeon.
"Only the dead go free..." Roger Waters.
"You do not understand the power of the DarkSide" Darth Vader.
Sometimes you'r the statue, sometimes your the pigeon.
"Only the dead go free..." Roger Waters.
"You do not understand the power of the DarkSide" Darth Vader.
- 2BugMe
- Oil Pump
- Posts: 265
- Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:00 pm
- What model do you have?: 1974 Type1
- Location: Faery Glen, Pretoria
- Been thanked: 2 times
Re: Some thoughts on cams
ish guys....thought this is a thread on CAMS.....?????????????????????
but oki doki then...



but oki doki then...


Drive fast, Drive safe, Have Fun
- vader
- ACVWSA Junkie
- Posts: 6465
- Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:17 am
- What model do you have?: TieFighter
- Location: Help!I don't know where I am. Its dark & I can hear voices...
- Has thanked: 9 times
- Been thanked: 10 times
Re: Some thoughts on cams
hahahahaha
"My other ride is your SeatCover! & She loves it!"
Sometimes you'r the statue, sometimes your the pigeon.
"Only the dead go free..." Roger Waters.
"You do not understand the power of the DarkSide" Darth Vader.
Sometimes you'r the statue, sometimes your the pigeon.
"Only the dead go free..." Roger Waters.
"You do not understand the power of the DarkSide" Darth Vader.
-
- Drive Train
- Posts: 3004
- Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:07 am
- What model do you have?: FUmobile
- Location: It doesn't matter.
- Been thanked: 1 time
Re: Some thoughts on cams
Honestly, a 009 with a STOCK carb is SHIT. Way too many flat spots/hesitation/lag..... you have to upgrade the main Pilot jet in the carb to at least a 130. Otherwise you are wasting your time and money....Ron&Gill wrote:One of the things I found was the "myth"-application of the 009 distributor. I was told that it was the best thing since sliced bread and it added power and to put it on my standard 1600 twin port... Of course it doesn't, and as long as you are running a motor with a good vacuum signal, avoid the 009. It has it's applications, but they seldom apply to cars that are "daily drivers". Tom found the same and he binned his, I think he was so disgusted, he didn't even sell it on! hehe...
highjack over.
VW Enthusiast








- slak
- Donor
- Posts: 1031
- Joined: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:07 am
- What model do you have?: Baja, Bay , Beetle
- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/editprofile.php
- Location: Jhb , Germiston
- Has thanked: 7 times
- Been thanked: 32 times