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Re: Need to change
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:19 pm
by krazed_69
vader wrote:2c...
You keep mentioning fuel ecconomy...
1st... What were you getting with the 1600 a/c should be around 10km/l, & have you checked what a 1800 w/c gives you? I would think the 1800 would be about the same if not heavier. The 1600 w/c get about 600km on a tank of 45l +- 13.3333 km/l so the 1800 should be around that if not a bit less.
2nd if you are really serious about fuel ecconomy then you should not be looking at petrol but rather diesel. Like a 1.9tdi or even the 1.4tdi.. 750-1000km on 65l thats between 11.5 and 16. + they will klap and 1800 petrol time and again....
So if you are SERIOUS about fuel economy go diesel anything else your just f*#@king around with pipe dreams and waisting your time and money.
But hay its your car......
Remember...
Do, or Do Not!!! There is no Try....
LOL! I was at one stage contemplating at trying to source one of those oulike 1.2tdi outjies of a BlueMotion but that's even more of a mission. As for fuel consumption on current A/C, I was getting between 5-7km/l, same with my previous 1600L '72... And that one was pretty much mint...
A W/C would be "easier" to drive on the open road (say for instance between here - Bloem - and Jo'Burg) than what a A/C would be...
It would most probably be lighter on fuel, and 13km/l is pretty acceptable (better would always be a bonus (^^,) )
Going Golf/Nissan carb is much less of a hassle, than having to try and sort out wiring and all the other stuff that goes along with it....
Or am I wrong?
RICKY-R69 wrote:I have done a 1400 nissan coversion on my son's car and a 1800 golf conversion on my own car. And guess what? He won't leave my car alone. Plenty of horses and less fuel consumption. I would say yes go for it. Not that hard to do yourself either.
Have you done it yourself? Mind doing mine then too?
LOL
Re: Need to change
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:14 pm
by RICKY-R69
If you use an adaptorplate and flywheel from Gilo engineering it is pretty easy to DIY. Mokopane and Bloem is a little far apart.
Re: Need to change
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:43 pm
by vader
Well there you go....
One thing I cant understand, why would your motor be suffering between 100&120? Does it run out of rev's? Does it loose power? Define suffering? 100-120 is when I found them to run sweetest and going onto 135.
What would a conversion to w/c cost about?
Re: Need to change
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:58 pm
by retrovan
Well there you go, sorted.
You know what motor to fit, now all you have to do is get it up to ........Mokopane-Limpopo
Re: Need to change
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:30 pm
by Bugger
Bugger wrote:HI I got a Dutsun either 1200 or 14oo motor with 2 x SU Carburettors and adapter plate with Radiator comming out of a Beach buggy I am building a strong beetle engine for
and the motor , adapter plate and radiator I want R5500 for and the motor was Pulling Quite strong and this will also be very light on fuel
Just a thought and it is cheap
Hi This motor has found a new owner today
Carb Golf motor with a Long ratio Transmission then you chasing fuel consumption on the long road
Re: Need to change
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:57 am
by krazed_69
vader wrote:Well there you go....
One thing I cant understand, why would your motor be suffering between 100&120? Does it run out of rev's? Does it loose power? Define suffering? 100-120 is when I found them to run sweetest and going onto 135.
What would a conversion to w/c cost about?
By suffering, I meant the motor feels like it's out of steam, noise is excessive, and there's pretty much no acceleration above 110 :-/ I know there's nothing wrong with my gearbox/clutch and so on - had that checked out :-/ As for total cost of converting to W/C - still working that one out
Bugger wrote:
Carb Golf motor with a Long ratio Transmission then you chasing fuel consumption on the long road
Long ratio box I understand - how to go about getting a combined best setup? Good in town as well as open road, as if I think correctly long ratio might make it a bit of a biatch in town? Or am I wrong?
retrovan wrote:Well there you go, sorted.
You know what motor to fit, now all you have to do is get it up to ........Mokopane-Limpopo
Don't joke! My dad lives in Polokwane and is coming down this weekend
Might just send the car up with him
Re: Need to change
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:12 am
by RICKY-R69
I am running a 1300 gbox with 205/80/14 tyres at the back. Pretty nifty in town and revs at about 3500 rpm at 140 km/h. Would love to have a long ratio gearbox though. Polokwane hey? Let your dad get in touch with Ralph Boemer. He does one hell of a neat conversion.
Re: Need to change
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:26 pm
by krazed_69
RICKY-R69 wrote:I am running a 1300 gbox with 205/80/14 tyres at the back. Pretty nifty in town and revs at about 3500 rpm at 140 km/h. Would love to have a long ratio gearbox though. Polokwane hey? Let your dad get in touch with Ralph Boemer. He does one hell of a neat conversion.
1300 box from 1300 Beetle? Do you maybe have contact details for Ralph?
Re: Need to change
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:28 pm
by Bugger
krazed_69 wrote:vader wrote:Well there you go....
One thing I cant understand, why would your motor be suffering between 100&120? Does it run out of rev's? Does it loose power? Define suffering? 100-120 is when I found them to run sweetest and going onto 135.
What would a conversion to w/c cost about?
By suffering, I meant the motor feels like it's out of steam, noise is excessive, and there's pretty much no acceleration above 110 :-/ I know there's nothing wrong with my gearbox/clutch and so on - had that checked out :-/ As for total cost of converting to W/C - still working that one out
Bugger wrote:
Carb Golf motor with a Long ratio Transmission then you chasing fuel consumption on the long road
Long ratio box I understand - how to go about getting a combined best setup? Good in town as well as open road, as if I think correctly long ratio might make it a bit of a biatch in town? Or am I wrong?
Only 4th gear ratio gets changed to a longer as std ratio so you still got nice accelaration 1st 2nd 3de
retrovan wrote:Well there you go, sorted.
You know what motor to fit, now all you have to do is get it up to ........Mokopane-Limpopo
Don't joke! My dad lives in Polokwane and is coming down this weekend
Might just send the car up with him
Re: Need to change
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:35 am
by RICKY-R69
krazed_69 wrote:RICKY-R69 wrote:I am running a 1300 gbox with 205/80/14 tyres at the back. Pretty nifty in town and revs at about 3500 rpm at 140 km/h. Would love to have a long ratio gearbox though. Polokwane hey? Let your dad get in touch with Ralph Boemer. He does one hell of a neat conversion.
1300 box from 1300 Beetle? Do you maybe have contact details for Ralph?
Yes it is a 1300 beetle gearbox. Let your dad ask the guys at Goldwagen in Polokwane for Ralph's details. They all know him very well.
Re: Need to change
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:17 am
by MarshallGTi
what 4th gear would u use to get a nice cruising ratio?
Re: Need to change
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:12 am
by Bugger
MarshallGTi wrote:what 4th gear would u use to get a nice cruising ratio?
Depending on whagt R&P you got and Hp you got
Re: Need to change
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:53 am
by MarshallGTi
Let's call it the most common then, a boggo standard mid 70s 1600