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Re: My bug - ANGRRR - the ongoing project (new name)
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:23 am
by Louisben
Re: My bug - ANGRRR - the ongoing project (new name)
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:52 pm
by vader
Re: My bug - ANGRRR - the ongoing project (new name)
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:46 am
by Tony Z
Yes Anniken... you keep living in your little world
But yes, you are correct, I did loose traction on york Road, nearly taking out both ANGRRR and the Darkside, as well as a GTI. Early gearchange brought that back under control.
Re: My bug - ANGRRR - the ongoing project (new name)
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 7:35 pm
by vader
HEHEHEHE!!!!!
Re: My bug - ANGRRR - the ongoing project (new name)
Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:36 pm
by 4agedub
Tony
Do you know what size the exhaust ports are on your engine? I'm trying to figure out what is the relation between valve size and exhaust port size...

Re: My bug - ANGRRR - the ongoing project (new name)
Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:47 pm
by Tony Z
They are not much bigger than stock. Apparently the stock exhaust port is good enough to match a 42mm inlet valve (or there abouts). I had the 38mm seat installed, cleaned up a good entrance and a smooth radius into the port, while widening it slightly around the guide and made it all flow to the original hole. Cleaning the hole up slightly.
Re: My bug - ANGRRR - the ongoing project (new name)
Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:59 pm
by 4agedub
Some people talk about 105% of the valve size... as long as the port is smaller than the exhaust tubing.
If I look at modern type multi valve engines this can be seen on most of them, but whether it will work on a 2 valve engine, I'm not sure. My engine is as the point now where I need to decide what to do with the heads before they go back on. It's 42mm intake and 37 exhaust valve with 1 7/8" exhaust system. Right now the exhaust port is around 34mm

Re: My bug - ANGRRR - the ongoing project (new name)
Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:20 pm
by Tony Z
I got a small chart which says your exhaust is too big by a long shot....
1915cc, 1 7/8" exh works from 4350rpm to 9999rpm
Will try to post the chart.
The smaller port helps keep the speed up, which after the initial blowdown pulse, should no-longer be a restriction.
Then again, 105% of the valve size... think about having a stem in the way, the 38mm valve itself only offers a hole 33mm big if you exclude the valve seat. Taking into account the valve seat being 1.5mm less in diameter than the valve (normally probably 2 to 3mm), then the seat hole for for gas to move through is 36mm with an 8mm valve stem, which equals an equivalent of a 31.1mm hole.
So your 34mm port is already 110% the size of the actual hole you are providing at the seat.
Re: My bug - ANGRRR - the ongoing project (new name)
Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:30 pm
by Tony Z
This chart was recently published in a VW magazine somewhere. It shows the "working range" of an exhaust vs rpm and engine size

Re: My bug - ANGRRR - the ongoing project (new name)
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:02 am
by Grand Slam Aircooled
Mmmm interesting....
Re: My bug - ANGRRR - the ongoing project (new name)
Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 10:24 am
by Ron&Gill
No Anakin! Exhaust size is NOT the only limit on rpm...
Re: My bug - ANGRRR - the ongoing project (new name)
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:39 pm
by 77 super beetle
WOW what an awesome bug I really envy you, if I only hd the know how on how to work on my bug...well done
Re: My bug - ANGRRR - the ongoing project (new name)
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:01 pm
by Tony Z
thanks man....
you also need plenty patience...
Re: My bug - ANGRRR - the ongoing project (new name)
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:59 pm
by vader
And money...
And mmmm a seatcover to work out your frustrations on!!!!

Re: My bug - ANGRRR - the ongoing project (new name)
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:00 pm
by vader
Ron&Gill wrote:No Anakin! Exhaust size is NOT the only limit on rpm...
Absolutly correct Obi-Wan the limiting factor is Emperial Credits....