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Re: 1.6 KCC 356 Porsche Speedster

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ahhh.....the endless task continues......but hey, we're getting closer.

Still flatting...based on the amount..... this puppy should be a mirror once sprayed. Have decided to pull the motor in the mean time and send through to Dave R. for a complete overhaul and a couple of small mods. This will be the run around motor. Picked up a 1600 twin port long block last week for next to nothing. on closer inspection, i reckon it's pretty shagged, but i should be able to salvage the heads to start with. For what i paid though, i'm not stressing.

On the parts list so far for the existing engine:(other than the standard stuff)
SINGLE HIGH REV SPRINGS 
CHROMOLY RETAINERS 
CHROMOLY COTTERS 
ENGLE 110 BILLET CAM 
CHROMOLY PUSH RODS- UNCUT 
SOLID ROCKER SHAFT CONVERSION 
EMPI H/D ROCHER SHAFT KIT 
CAST IRON MELLING OIL PUMP 
MILD P/P HEADS
i'm sure Her Rowley will have some ideas too..... :jumping:

And of course i'll have to throw an exhaust onto that too, but hey....while we're spending. :?

The carbs are going to be an interesting one. For now i'll stick with what i have (Weber 32/36 DGV 5A) and at some stage look for a set of dual carbs just to keep me busy. Should be nippy for what i need in the short term.

Some more work on the body and then it's off to be sprayed (based on the amount of flatting and repairs i've done, i dont really want to kill my hard work with a dodgy sprayjob.)

All in all, we're getting there...slowly i know....but getting there. Managing this house and the car and work is no real fun, but i promise i WILL get there.

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Re: 1.6t KCC 356 Porsche Speedster

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UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we damand
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eish...the pressure!!

To be honest....cant say i'm too happy at the moment. undercoating has been great until i hit the drivers door. See, when the previous :jerkoff: used dodgy cheap paint with minimal hardener, one coat of undercoat and my door looked like 1 X crocodile skin!!! :evil:

I reached the point of super pi$$ed off!! Now will have to take the door down to fibreglass and start again on it!!
Motor is 90% out, just been lazy to be honest. Rather than get more upset, i've resorted to short term shopping. Retail therapy is good!! :lol: Hunting for carbs etc. To be honest, after hearing how many guys we're going up to fig's, i went online to book aflight up to JHB (shop and visit at the same time). Only probelm is ....no cheap tickets. Thought it may be cool to join everyone. Still considering just forking out the cash anyway....hey, you may just see me!
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Re: 1.6t KCC 356 Porsche Speedster

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aaahhhh bummer man..........

I looked around for carbs and gave up when I saw what guys were charging for a set.........I still say EFI and throttle bodies will work out the same........

You should look into that option.

Good luck..............I hope that you're taking pictures of it all.
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The cro-mo bits are overkill on a 1600 you can safely use your stock pushrods with single hi-srev springs, have done it many times with motors reving up to 6000 rpm, rather spend the money on a CW crank from Dave.
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Thanks for the advice...i'll bring it up with Dave when i chat to him.

On the EFI route, i still think this could be an option...will bring it up with Dave too....luckily i can source most of what will be needed from my brother. I think i already have injectors etc with him, just engine management required.

The tax man was generous this year, so i should be able to up my budget a tad ;) (counterweighted crank perhaps.....)

Pics will be posted soon, as soon as i pull out the motor. What i do need to folllow up on is gearbox....as far as we can tell, the motor is actually a 1200 case, not sure what the difference is between the 1200 and 1600 casing, but what concerns me more is the fact that the gearbox may be 1200 too. Was there a major difference in ratio's?, and can it be used with my new set up if it is different. I'll pull the number off it as soon as i can. I top out at about 105kph in 4th at 4000 rpm.

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Rabid_ant wrote:Thanks for the advice...i'll bring it up with Dave when i chat to him.

On the EFI route, i still think this could be an option...will bring it up with Dave too....luckily i can source most of what will be needed from my brother. I think i already have injectors etc with him, just engine management required.

Opinions welcome.....

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flatfourfan wrote:
Rabid_ant wrote:Thanks for the advice...i'll bring it up with Dave when i chat to him.

On the EFI route, i still think this could be an option...will bring it up with Dave too....luckily i can source most of what will be needed from my brother. I think i already have injectors etc with him, just engine management required.

Opinions welcome.....

Kev
I picked up my 44 DDH sidedrafts for under R100 each, afterall you only need them for their throttle bodies, brand new management is about R1800 give or take.

Are you still doing EFI, Gary?
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Rabid_ant wrote:
What i do need to folllow up on is gearbox....as far as we can tell, but what concerns me more is the fact that the gearbox may be 1200 too. Was there a major difference in ratio's?, and can it be used with my new set up if it is different. I'll pull the number off it as soon as i can. I top out at about 105kph in 4th at 4000 rpm.
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One of the easiest ways to see if it is a 1200 box the clutch lever on the side of the box are curved and the 1200 box has only numbers and no Digits in the box number

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Thanks Bugger.....will dive under the hood this evening to see if i can find it.
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Blitzkrieg_Beetle wrote:
flatfourfan wrote:
Rabid_ant wrote:Thanks for the advice...i'll bring it up with Dave when i chat to him.

On the EFI route, i still think this could be an option...will bring it up with Dave too....luckily i can source most of what will be needed from my brother. I think i already have injectors etc with him, just engine management required.

Opinions welcome.....

Kev
I picked up my 44 DDH sidedrafts for under R100 each, afterall you only need them for their throttle bodies, brand new management is about R1800 give or take.

Are you still doing EFI, Gary?
Yup......works out the same as going for two decent twin carbs.......
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Kev

Wanna ask you something?

You doing the prep on your car yourself? I went to my painter last week as he was doing a spyder and was shocked to see him just flatting the top layer and going straight for primer above that, I know for a fact that that car had at least 4 layers of paint on it and a small chip would mean body filling and respraying again. I think that I can see why his quote was so cheap now.

I'm contimplating doing the prep myself on the car. I have above average skills when it comes to handiwork on the car and am not scared of doing it myself, but I want to know that it's done right. I know that my car has at least 2 different layers on it already gold/ silver and heaven knows what else underneath as well. I want to go red, so if I get a small chip on it, it's going to show up bad.......I have no issues with cracks, bad paint on my car at all.

Any recommendations? Advice?

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eish....couldn't you ask me something simpler ;)

i really dont know how to answer you. i'm still sitting with the same problem. The only difference is the fact that my car had loads of "damage" and was always going to sit with the problem you have, so i opted to flat out as much as i could, prime, then spray. Removing all the paint is going to be a mission, but not impossible. I have to do that with the door considering the paint underneath has softened and is already causing issues. I'm yet to see if the paintstripper is going to damage the fibreglass (paintstripper only because the paint is so soft i cant sand it down). As much as i'd like to start with a clean shell and work from there, reality is ..never going to happen, so i'm just gonna try as best i can and hope i dont get any chips in the process. The other probelm you might face with doing all that work is what you might find under the paint. I thought mine was cleanish, until i started sanding, then felt the pain. i resorted to the fact that if i get a chip, repair, touch up, respray in a couple of years and go along like that. Doing more might drive you crazy, but will look good. This hasn't given much advice...but might get you thinking.
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Well I took it to a mate who's the fibreglass king and asked his advice. He looked over the body and suggested on sanding it down further in the trouble areas which is on top of the doors, where I have a stress crack or two. The rest he said is good, flat the whole car down and prime and spray, as the car won't be driven all of the time, he said it's a complete and utter waste of time.

My body is actually is very good knick, there are no stress cracks and no issues with the paint, so I'm going to take him up on his advice.

He actually told me to stay the hell away with paint stripper and the body as it cause endless problems if you don't do it 101% properly.

Tomorrow he's going to quote on his work and with my tax return money, hopefulyl I can get this done the end of the month.

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hhmmm....thats concerning. Perhaps i should follow his advice on that too. Just dont know how i'm gonna get the paint off the door dammit! Thats tomorrows job though, so lets hope for the best.
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