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2.0l bus transmission, R4.5k, Kimberley

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:19 pm
by fig
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Re: 2.0l bus transmission, R4.5k, Kimberley

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:48 pm
by retrovan
The Bus experts please help me right........

The 2lt box is longer then the Beetle box ??

The drive shafts sit forward by approx. 15 mm.then the Beetle box.?

The total engine is 20 mm more to the rear, then the Beetle box ??...

Thanks for your help...

Herman

Re: 2.0l bus transmission, R4.5k, Kimberley

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:38 pm
by Dawie
The 2L 6-rib box was introduced starting with the 76 production year. Called "Type 091. Final drive is 4.57:1 and 4th 0.89.

Box type 002 in "three rib" and "5 rib pyramid shape" version each had different ratios and was used by 1600, 1700, and 1800 bay window.. Threerib 5.375:1 / 0.82 4th for 1600/1700 and 5-rib 4.86:1 /0.89 4th for 1800.

Both stronger than beetle box. Sometimes used in off-road applications like bajas and tube-frame specials.

When 72 Bay was redesigned to accept type 4 engines, the rear torsion tube was re-positioned and rear track widened to increase stability at higher cornering speeds. Think torsion tube could have been moved slightly forward in the process, and trailing arms lengthened, to have more space available for transmission. So not really a case of engine more rearwards, more like box more forwards i think. Exact position of shafts only matters in swing axle applications. Cv joints can efficiently and permanently run at angles.

Re: 2.0l bus transmission, R4.5k, Kimberley

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:11 pm
by retrovan
Thanks Dawie,
The reason I ask, is should I fit a 2lt box to say a Split bus body such as say a Fleetline, would the engine be in the correct place or would it stick out towards the back.
This is what i have heard, and not sure if true. As the box cannot go more forward, will the engine have to move back, and by how much.

Thanks
Herman

Re: 2.0l bus transmission, R4.5k, Kimberley

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:51 am
by fig
retrovan wrote:Thanks Dawie,
The reason I ask, is should I fit a 2lt box to say a Split bus body such as say a Fleetline, would the engine be in the correct place or would it stick out towards the back.
This is what i have heard, and not sure if true. As the box cannot go more forward, will the engine have to move back, and by how much.

Thanks
Herman
Hi Herman. AFAIK, yes. Because the baywindow transmissions were longer than Beetle or split bus trannies, if you fit one the engine will stick out at the back. To do a seamless install, you would need to shift the rear torsion beam forwards (about 10cm IIRC), which obviously involves some serious cutting, realignment, fabrication and welding.

Re: 2.0l bus transmission, R4.5k, Kimberley

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:02 pm
by retrovan
Thanks Fig, that is what I heard, was not sure if it was fact.

Too much Work, too little reward.....

Herman