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Colour sample - Body Component

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:59 pm
by sean
Hi Guys

I'm quite urgently looking for a colour sample of this dark green used on early baywindows. A fuel cap, grill, or any piece of body with original paint will be most helpful for me to match it correctly. I only need to borrow it and can return it as soon as I am done. I can arrange a pick-up and return from any location.

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Please let me know.

Thanks
Sean

Re: Colour sample - Body Component

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:32 pm
by spicydave
Will this not help Sean

VW Colour Chart

Paint codes
L87 Pearl White
L90D Pastel White
L91Z Atlas White
L282 Lotus White
L581 Cloud White
L567 Ivory
L20B Brilliant Orange
L555 Titian Red
L30B Kansas Red
L30H Montana Red
L31A Senegal Red
L31H Chianti Red
LH3A Fox Red
L11H Sierra Yellow
L20A Marino Yellow
L21A Chrome Yellow
L62H Bali Yellow
L60D Elm Green
L61B Sumatra Green
L63H Sage Green
L512 Velvet Green
L610 Delta Green
L50H Brilliant Blue
L50K Neptune Blue
L53D Niagra Blue
L53H Orient Blue
L57H Reef Blue
LE1M Mexico Beige
L13A Dakota Beige
L13H Ceylon Beige
L91D Kansas Beige
L620 Savannah Beige
L12A Panama Brown
L87Z Agate Brown
LH8A Date Brown
L041 Black
L345 Light Grey

Re: Colour sample - Body Component

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:44 pm
by fig
@sean, are you looking for the imported L610 Delta Green, or the local green that is similar?

@spicydave, that list is for buses painted in Germany. VWSA used their own, unique colour palette.

Re: Colour sample - Body Component

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:54 pm
by sean
The local VWSA colour. I've never seen the 2 colours together, so I'm not sure how different they are.

Re: Colour sample - Body Component

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:23 pm
by Dawie
Will probably not be of much help, but, by the way:

The 1969 VW-Uitenhage dark green colour was called "Java Green", code 15. (as per a pamphlet for type 3 which Paul had).

Re: Colour sample - Body Component

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:45 pm
by 73type2
sean wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:54 pm The local VWSA colour...
Speaking of the local VWSA colour, does anybody have a list of these colours?

Re: Colour sample - Body Component

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:48 pm
by Dawie
Java Green VW Germany 1967- Code L518
not a good picture, could it maybe be the same? ( Cellphone cameras are not always colour-true and light conditions differ)
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Re: Colour sample - Body Component

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:53 pm
by fig
Just to throw a spanner in the works ... local java green Beetles and Type3s look very close to L610 delta green. But the locally built early baywindows looked to my eye like they were painted a slightly different colour (slightly lighter and "greener"), but I may be mistaken ...

Re: Colour sample - Body Component

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:22 pm
by Dawie
Glasurit mixing formulas:

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Java Green / Color code 518

50.0 parts 1069 dunkelgrun
40.0 parts 1051 weiB
08.0 parts 1052 schwarz
02.0 parts 1070 mittelblau


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Delta Green / Color code 610 / Year of usage 66B, 68A, 69H

74.5 parts 1069 dunkelgrun
15.9 parts 1053 ocker
06.4 parts 1052 schwarz
03.2 parts 1051 weiB

Re: Colour sample - Body Component

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:31 pm
by retrovan
sean wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:59 pm ...

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Please let me know.

Thanks
Sean
@sean is Chris of Uitenhage's Kombi not that colour, as his is original.

Give him a call

hope it helps

Herman

Re: Colour sample - Body Component

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:27 pm
by Jdt1976
Difficult to see if the German 518 is the same colour you looking for. To me the 518 looks lighter in the pics.

I have a spare dash part thats painted the 518 if you need it to check if that is what you got in mind.

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Re: Colour sample - Body Component

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:34 pm
by sean
Here are a few more examples of ones I have spotted.

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This was a Westy I took pictures of about 7 years ago at Gerhards place. Looking at it now, I see its a 1969 model, So this cant be the VWSA green. It does look quite similar though?
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Re: Colour sample - Body Component

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:50 pm
by jolas
fig, you will have to track down "Skilpad" and borrow the fuel flap ;)

Re: Colour sample - Body Component

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:05 am
by lowlight
Were nt the Westfalia's painted overseas and your bus painted local.

Re: Colour sample - Body Component

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:30 am
by fig
Skilpad, my former 1969 Westfalia and the green westy you photgraphed at Gerhard's, Sean, were both tourist delivery buses, so painted in Germany. Both were Delta Green

@lowlight, Only tourist delivery westies and the initial batch of fully imported early bay westies were painted in Germany. From mid-1970 model year, they were assembled and painted at Uitenhage.

Sean, as mentioned this weekend, Gerhard has a colour swatch to do a paint match for you of South African Java Green (1968-69) and Dark Green (1970-71).

More info later, but a significant breakthrough has just been made regarding VWSA paint and upholstery colour names and codes ...