1835cc type 1 engine with fuel injection conversion & gearbox - 80k

[Cogita]

VW beetle engine 1835 fuel injected with gearbox

R80,000neg selling everything. Literally fit and drive. Just have to run a return fuel line to your tank.

Fuel and ignition system
Reserve fuel line back to the tank
Hi flow Bosch fuel pump
43mm Toyota throttles
Fuel rail
Fuel regulator
Custom adapter plates
Ram tubes and socks
Injectors
Individual Coils
Trigger sensor
Trigger wheel
Custom linkage
Dictator 69-2 wasted spark
Dictator mogul

Charge
Alternator

Cooling
Easy flow fan shroud
External 24 pass oil cooler, fan for oil cooler and stainless steel beaded hose with ftf fittings all round.
Billet filler oil filler and cap

Engine
As41 casing machines to spec
92mm Mahle piston
Standard conrods
Counterweighted and 8 dowled crank shaft
Cb performance High lift Bigfoot cam shaft
CBD performance lightweight lifters
Melling oil pump
Extra 2.5liter add on oil sump
Empi breather box
Braided houses with FTF fittings

Heads
Fly cut
CC’d
Ported and flowed
40mm inlet stainless steel valves
35,5mm stainless steel exhaust valve
Hi rev springs
Stainless steel lash caps
Solid rocker bar
1:25 ratio rockers
Chromoly push rods
New standard push tube
Match ported intakes

Exhaust
Custom 4into1 performance exhaust.
Powerkote coated for heat resistance and corrosion

Gearbox and clutch
Standard clutch
Lightened flywheel and stainless steel dowl pins, 8 dowled
Early model short shafts gearbox
performance gearbox (from Aneesa’s old beetle)

Ichraam Daniels built the engine
All parts were bought from Dave rowley and Dave ingle
Porting and polishing by ikraam and mike Dixon
Cam and lifters from CB Performance.

This engine literally has under 2000km on it as we never drove it much. Didn’t drive it the whole of last year.

price is R80k

Contact Ismail:
072 976 3774

[73type2]

Good luck with your asking price.

[Magoo1975]

Good luck with your asking price.

For the uneducated, what should something like this sell for?

[Tony Z]

Good luck with your asking price.

For the uneducated, what should something like this sell for?

for a turnkey engine, 80k isnt too unreasonable
all depending on the actual parts used

[73type2]

I'm uneducated in the true value of aircooled parts, but in today's hard economic times (for most of us) I would be very interested to know what the final SELLING price of this engine will be. I'm excluding the small percentage of millionaires for whom 80k is nothing.

[Tony Z]

I'm uneducated in the true value of aircooled parts, but in today's hard economic times (for most of us) I would be very interested to know what the final SELLING price of this engine will be. I'm excluding the small percentage of millionaires for whom 80k is nothing.

I think you are missing the point here and comparing the value to an engine using stock used parts. The minute you start building custom engines and using performance parts, the price goes up pretty quickly. Just looking at the photo above of the engine... the fanhousing is around 3k new. That pulley with timing gear on it wont go for less than 1500.
Toyota throttle bodies, fuel injection pump, hoses, injectors and engine management system... wont be particularly cheap.
Manifolds, adaptors for throttles, linkage... dont know, maybe 5k with filters.

I sell some performance parts from time to time and am probably one of the cheapest in the country, but dont advertise much because I dont carry much. I also build custom engines when people want.
And I can tell you, some of these engines get pricey.
For example, a cam and cam followers. Used out of a old engine, probably R300. Regrinding them all, add another R1200 or so. But now you have a small base circle which is pretty hard on the valve train. Other option is new Engle cam and followers which I sell for 4k.
EMPI parts are cheaper, but they are also crap and I refuse to use them ever.
And with customs engines, if done properly and fully blueprinted and balanced (which I dont think too many people do, its just easier to slap it together and make it run), you have to add in the engine builders time and costs. I've built engines which have taken me over 100 hours to build. What is a fair price for that?
If you meticulously scrub and clean a stock engine then torque all the items exactly to spec, you can easily spend 30 to 40 hours building such an engine. Or you can just clean it well enough, slap it together torquing a few items roughly to spec and finish the engine in 10 to 15 hours... Either which way, all these costs have to be factored into an engine build.

I have no history of the engine above and no idea how it was put together, but I am just speaking about my experience.
And cheap engines dont last.

This last December i had a guy come in for a rebuild. He bought a rebuilt engine which came with a 6 month, 5000km warrantee, I think he paid around 8k for it. It sat in his buggy for nearly a year before he tried to use it. It didnt work properly.
He asked me to use as many of his parts as possible and build something that worked. I took it apart and found that the rebuilder didnt even bother to change the oil. All that he did was clean and paint the block and sell it. Everything in there was worn beyond use. I gave the parts back to him in boxes and told him I wasnt prepaired to use a single piece of his old engine.

If you want to look at a couple of engine builds that I've done, look at the following links and keep scrolling through them - there is a lot of crap spoken on some of them, but there is plenty info and pictures
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=31405&start=60
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=14775
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=4515
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=31405&start=120

[Cogita]

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[Gerlach]

Good luck with your asking price.

We got a Saying " if you can't afford it, just move on" Building Motors for a beetle isn't cheap.