Retrovan's 1968 Fastback
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Re: Not 1967 but 1968 Fastback with type 4 FI motor
Thanks for the reply on the overnight parking system. The wife's MB has that as well. Didn't know that VW had that. Never too old to learn.
The work on the clutch looks awesome! Hope it works as well as it looks. Wish I learned to turn stuff.
If you want to part ways with the FI system, drop me a pm. I'd be interested if the price is right.
The work on the clutch looks awesome! Hope it works as well as it looks. Wish I learned to turn stuff.
If you want to part ways with the FI system, drop me a pm. I'd be interested if the price is right.
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Re: Not 1967 but 1968 Fastback with type 4 FI motor
No, I am running one in my white Baywindow. It's on +- 60 000km at the moment. We will see if it exceeds the 115 000km mark I got with my last motor which was one of those VW factory remanufactured engines. (if it was'nt for the camshaft breaking in half, I am sure it would still be running.) They also did the gearbox on my split.retrovan wrote:
Yes, it is an Andreno motor, one of the few guys with a complete work shop as well as machine shop, Why.... do you not like his motors....???
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Re: Not 1967 but 1968 Fastback with type 4 FI motor
Only have good to speak of my Beetle motor that Arno did for me, Bench run it, tuned it, I fitted it, runs crisp, full of power.
Before I did the beetle motor, I went to see his set-up, now I can tell you, I have seen a lot of engineering shops, and with a full and well equipped shop like his, as well as the number of motors in progress, there is no way that he could be doing anything but great motors.
This week end I was going to start the motor, but still waiting for my stub manifolds.
So now I will be cleaning my twin carbs, fitting fuel tank, and other smaller things.
May even try to start it with the kombi manifolds , just to see it run.....
Will post as we go.
Herman
Before I did the beetle motor, I went to see his set-up, now I can tell you, I have seen a lot of engineering shops, and with a full and well equipped shop like his, as well as the number of motors in progress, there is no way that he could be doing anything but great motors.
This week end I was going to start the motor, but still waiting for my stub manifolds.
So now I will be cleaning my twin carbs, fitting fuel tank, and other smaller things.
May even try to start it with the kombi manifolds , just to see it run.....

Will post as we go.
Herman
1952 Split Beetle 1835cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
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Re: Not 1967 but 1968 Fastback with type 4 FI motor
Did you come right with the stub manifolds? I did mms you a pic of the ones I have
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Re: Not 1967 but 1968 Fastback with type 4 FI motor
Hi Blitz,Blitzkrieg wrote:Did you come right with the stub manifolds? I did mms you a pic of the ones I have
Sorry, did not receive your MMS, best e-mail or post here.
Thanks
Herman
1952 Split Beetle 1835cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
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Re: Not 1967 but 1968 Fastback with type 4 FI motor
Where did the day go.
Started with a long list, and ended with a list just as long.
The starter was the 1st on the list, and when fitting it, I noticed that the Bush that I wanted to replace prior to fitting the engine, was forgotten.
So then 1st had to turn a bush for the starter, tested it and lubricated it , fitted it, and THEN fitted the starter.
Well at leased the motor still turns.....
Then the Type 4 Rear engine mount had to be bolted, but this could not be done as the type3 did not have provision for this bar mount.
So then Hanger had to be made to bolt the engine rear mount. well with this done, I spotted the heater boxes looked like
So off they came and I cleaned, and applied an Extra high temp silver spray to them, now they look new.
While under the car, I noticed that the dip stick, could not be reached now that the engine is in, so I had to fit an type 4 extended dip stick, that can be remover with out lifting the cover. As the type 3 dipstick will not work, I now have the type 4 dipstick, next to the type 3 oil filler.
Also fitter negative battery cable, Back bonnet, and striped and cleaned the carbs, these are now ready for the stub manifolds when they arrive........
Also fitter the electric fuel pump, and disposable fuel filter before wanting to fit the petrol tank.
On closer inspection, I found the dirt had blocked the outlet pipe, this had to be removed and cleaned, what a job.
Eventually got it open and clean, refitted it to the tank, and fitted the tank to the car. also filled in some petrol to expel any water.
Well tomorrow we will start on the list again........
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Started with a long list, and ended with a list just as long.

The starter was the 1st on the list, and when fitting it, I noticed that the Bush that I wanted to replace prior to fitting the engine, was forgotten.

So then 1st had to turn a bush for the starter, tested it and lubricated it , fitted it, and THEN fitted the starter.
Well at leased the motor still turns.....
Then the Type 4 Rear engine mount had to be bolted, but this could not be done as the type3 did not have provision for this bar mount.
So then Hanger had to be made to bolt the engine rear mount. well with this done, I spotted the heater boxes looked like

So off they came and I cleaned, and applied an Extra high temp silver spray to them, now they look new.
While under the car, I noticed that the dip stick, could not be reached now that the engine is in, so I had to fit an type 4 extended dip stick, that can be remover with out lifting the cover. As the type 3 dipstick will not work, I now have the type 4 dipstick, next to the type 3 oil filler.
Also fitter negative battery cable, Back bonnet, and striped and cleaned the carbs, these are now ready for the stub manifolds when they arrive........
Also fitter the electric fuel pump, and disposable fuel filter before wanting to fit the petrol tank.
On closer inspection, I found the dirt had blocked the outlet pipe, this had to be removed and cleaned, what a job.
Eventually got it open and clean, refitted it to the tank, and fitted the tank to the car. also filled in some petrol to expel any water.
Well tomorrow we will start on the list again........


Last edited by retrovan on Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:53 am, edited 1 time in total.
1952 Split Beetle 1835cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
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Re: Not 1967 but 1968 Fastback with type 4 FI motor
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Re: Not 1967 but 1968 Fastback with type 4 FI motor
Nice work
I hope you made that starter bushing from the correct material and not brass...... Brass works right the first time then the second time then maybe another few times and then seizes youthink maybey I didnt lubricate well so its out with the starter new grease and the cycle starts all over. Ak me how I know this
Armand
I hope you made that starter bushing from the correct material and not brass...... Brass works right the first time then the second time then maybe another few times and then seizes youthink maybey I didnt lubricate well so its out with the starter new grease and the cycle starts all over. Ak me how I know this

Armand

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Re: Not 1967 but 1968 Fastback with type 4 FI motor
Hi Armand,IMPI wrote:Nice work
I hope you made that starter bushing from the correct material and not brass...... Brass works right the first time then the second time then maybe another few times and then seizes youthink maybey I didnt lubricate well so its out with the starter new grease and the cycle starts all over. Ak me how I know this![]()
Armand
Thank you, coming from you, that's one massive compliment, Thank You.
Good to see you on my thread.
Yes you right, can be a problem, not sure if it will hold up, as I used pourris Bronze, but will be getting the right bush, as stand by, should it fail, just in case.

Having forgotten it, forced me to find an extraction system, so next time will be easy...

Always wondered why they never made them with needle bearings.????
May have to replace the type 3 starter anyway, as it seems a bit weak for the type 4 engine, but will see...

Thanks for the heads up.
Herman
PS, will have to get screen and shroud from you soon....
Will phone you.
1952 Split Beetle 1835cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
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Re: Not 1967 but 1968 Fastback with type 4 FI motor
Not much done today, one of those days where you take one step forward, and two back.
Filled tank today and started the electric fuel pump,
What a noise....
Now I have to drain the tank, remove the pump, fit a rubber base under it and refit it.
BUT this time I will be testing it before refitting the tank..
Will also blow out the fuel line and make sure it is free.
When under the car, I noticed that the rear axle dust cover (boot) had a hole in it, now I did test these boots before it went to spray shop...
What happened.??
Now we have to find good boots, and fit this coming weekend.
Fitted the bonnet, catches, and set the closing for a good fit.
Also did the boot lid, with all the chrome, namely the handle,and the "VW 1600 TL" badge.
Fed the number plate light wire into the brace bars, and got it working.
Tested the engine compartment light, and lid switch, and set it to work correctly.
Well that's all for this weekend, hopefully the parts will be here this week, and we can get it running.
Do not want to do the interior till all mechanicals are done.
Herman
Filled tank today and started the electric fuel pump,

Now I have to drain the tank, remove the pump, fit a rubber base under it and refit it.
BUT this time I will be testing it before refitting the tank..

Will also blow out the fuel line and make sure it is free.
When under the car, I noticed that the rear axle dust cover (boot) had a hole in it, now I did test these boots before it went to spray shop...

Now we have to find good boots, and fit this coming weekend.
Fitted the bonnet, catches, and set the closing for a good fit.
Also did the boot lid, with all the chrome, namely the handle,and the "VW 1600 TL" badge.
Fed the number plate light wire into the brace bars, and got it working.
Tested the engine compartment light, and lid switch, and set it to work correctly.
Well that's all for this weekend, hopefully the parts will be here this week, and we can get it running.
Do not want to do the interior till all mechanicals are done.
Herman
1952 Split Beetle 1835cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
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Re: Not 1967 but 1968 Fastback with type 4 FI motor
Could not wait for the weekend, as there is to much to do, and I need to complete the "Started jobs" before doing the Weekend list.
Still hoping to get my parts for the engine start this weekend, so that the upholstery can go in, have my hole "sweat shop" standing by, waiting for the mechanicals to be complete, so they can get stuck into the upholstery.
Stripped the tank out again, refitted the fuel pump on a backing of sound proofing, cleared and "pipe cleaner" cleaned the fuel pipe from front to back.
tested, and refitted it all, retested it again, now I am happy.
Now ready for axle boots, and manifolds.........
Herman
Still hoping to get my parts for the engine start this weekend, so that the upholstery can go in, have my hole "sweat shop" standing by, waiting for the mechanicals to be complete, so they can get stuck into the upholstery.
Stripped the tank out again, refitted the fuel pump on a backing of sound proofing, cleared and "pipe cleaner" cleaned the fuel pipe from front to back.
tested, and refitted it all, retested it again, now I am happy.
Now ready for axle boots, and manifolds.........
Herman
1952 Split Beetle 1835cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
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Re: Not 1967 but 1968 Fastback with type 4 FI motor
dont forget the fuel pump needs to be mounted at a slight angle to prevent backflowing and draining your carbs. Not critical but it is in the instructions (assuming you have a facet type "clicky" pump).
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Re: Not 1967 but 1968 Fastback with type 4 FI motor
Thanks for the heads-up, did see it in the instructions.Tony Z wrote:dont forget the fuel pump needs to be mounted at a slight angle to prevent backflowing and draining your carbs. Not critical but it is in the instructions (assuming you have a facet type "clicky" pump).
Would seam that when I wrote about "Noisy Fuel Pump" , you know strait away which one I got.


Thanks Tony Z
Herman
1952 Split Beetle 1835cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
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Re: Not 1967 but 1968 Fastback with type 4 FI motor
lol.... been there. Holley is a different design but just as loud.
I did the angle thing the cheap and easy way.
Take 2 wingnuts, break one tab off each. Bolt thru pan held on with wingnut. Mount pump on wingut. Insert nut to hold pump down. Viola, cheap and easy.
I did the angle thing the cheap and easy way.
Take 2 wingnuts, break one tab off each. Bolt thru pan held on with wingnut. Mount pump on wingut. Insert nut to hold pump down. Viola, cheap and easy.
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Re: Not 1967 but 1968 Fastback with type 4 FI motor
Good idea.
What I use are these Blind thread inserts, you drill a hole push it in, turn with Cap head bolt for it to collapse onto the steel of the body, and then you have a perfect thread to put a bolt in.
The beauty of these, are that the more you tighten, the stronger they grip the body.
What I use are these Blind thread inserts, you drill a hole push it in, turn with Cap head bolt for it to collapse onto the steel of the body, and then you have a perfect thread to put a bolt in.
The beauty of these, are that the more you tighten, the stronger they grip the body.
1952 Split Beetle 1835cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc
1968 Fastback 2Lt.type4
1972 Low Light Bay Panel Van 2Lt type 4
1975 Fleetline Panel Van 1914cc
2020 MeFusco Beetle Truck 2Lt type 4
1972 FT Hahn SP 1776 cc