army vehicles

vuyo · Post by **vuyo** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:42 am

how can i buy a vehicle from the army

Blitzkrieg · Post by **Blitzkrieg** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:54 am

Here in Pretoria there are plenty Military surplus yards with these vehicles

I'm not too sure if a civilian can buy them though

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:00 pm

Do you have a specific vehicle in mind?

If you do,you go to that regiment and ask for the commanding officer,ask him if the vehicle is redundannt.If it is,get his permission to speak to the person in charge of the car pool,and that person will then point you in the right direction and will also tell you what paper work to do to bid on the vehicle.It is a major schlep,believe me!

vuyo · Post by **vuyo** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:04 pm

a buddy of mine wants a 4x4 unimog. Chris did you try get a vehicle from the SANDF ? if so what was it ?

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:10 pm

Yes,an origanal Willy's jeep,still in it's box.
These cars were build,then knocked down,put in a box,and wrapped with shrink wrap.It lay there for years,still brand new.Unfortunattaly,a guy in PTA got it for a couple of rand more than what i bid at that time.

Blitzkrieg · Post by **Blitzkrieg** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:37 pm

vuyo wrote:a buddy of mine wants a 4x4 unimog. Chris did you try get a vehicle from the SANDF ? if so what was it ?

Those Unimogs are coooooooooooool

That's the right thing to drive over taxis

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:38 pm

What is today with killing taxi's?lol

Surge · Post by **Surge** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:13 pm

There is a guy in my neighbourhood who fixes up all those old military vehicles for sale.

He does :
SAMIL 100'S
SAMIL 50'S MK1 & MK2
SAMIL 20'S MK1 & MK2
BUFFELS

I'm not sure if he does Unimogs but maybe he can supply some info.
Here's his web addy : http://www.jacobsmachines.co.za/

Also there is a yard with military vehicles for sale in Bapsfontein.
If you take the Delmas road out of Pretoria (R50) and drive through Bapsfontein you'll see them on the right hand side just after the BP garage which is on the left.
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=-26. ... &z=18&om=1

vuyo · Post by **vuyo** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:21 pm

grate help Surge nice one

Blitzkrieg · Post by **Blitzkrieg** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:26 pm

Surge wrote:There is a guy in my neighbourhood who fixes up all those old military vehicles for sale.

He does :
SAMIL 100'S
SAMIL 50'S MK1 & MK2
SAMIL 20'S MK1 & MK2
BUFFELS

I'm not sure if he does Unimogs but maybe he can supply some info.
Here's his web addy : http://www.jacobsmachines.co.za/

Also there is a yard with military vehicles for sale in Bapsfontein.
If you take the Delmas road out of Pretoria (R50) and drive through Bapsfontein you'll see them on the right hand side just after the BP garage which is on the left.
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=-26. ... &z=18&om=1

I saw that yard in Bapsfontein

Post by **Pine** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:19 pm

The SANDF does not have a lot of Unimogs left anymore, mostly ambulances and fire trucks that are still in use. The Buffel, however, was a mine-proof personnel carrier built on a LHD Unimog chassis, with Unimog running gear, engine etc. A lot of Buffels are usually available at military auctions. If you can get hold of one, buy it and throw off the armoured plates. IMPI mentioned recently that he knows a guy in the Klerksdorp area that builds authentic Unimog fibreglass cabs and bodies, specifically for a Buffel chassis.

PS: If you take the N1 North, towards Polokwane, there is a military yard at the Wallmanstahl turnoff. I passed it last week en route to Bela-Bela and saw a Unimog standing there. There is also a military vehicle yard on the R21 between Tembisa and Centurion, which usually have a few 'Mogs.

PPS: Don't underestimate the SAMIL 20, I've seen it go literally ANYWHERE off-road, and if I'm not mistaken it's got an AIR COOLED Magirus Deutz engine!

Blitzkrieg · Post by **Blitzkrieg** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:26 pm

Pine wrote:The SANDF does not have a lot of Unimogs left anymore, mostly ambulances and fire trucks that are still in use. The Buffel, however, was a mine-proof personnel carrier built on a LHD Unimog chassis, with Unimog running gear, engine etc. A lot of Buffels are usually available at military auctions. If you can get hold of one, buy it and throw off the armoured plates. IMPI mentioned recently that he knows a guy in the Klerksdorp area that builds authentic Unimog fibreglass cabs and bodies, specifically for a Buffel chassis.

PS: If you take the N1 North, towards Polokwane, there is a military yard at the Wallmanstahl turnoff. I passed it last week en route to Bela-Bela and saw a Unimog standing there. There is also a military vehicle yard on the R21 between Tembisa and Centurion, which usually have a few 'Mogs.

PPS: Don't underestimate the SAMIL 20, I've seen it go literally ANYWHERE off-road, and if I'm not mistaken it's got an AIR COOLED Magirus Deutz engine!

Apparently that armoured plate would fetch quite a bit at the scrap metal dealers

Those Magirus Deutz engines are bulletproof!

Surge · Post by **Surge** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:35 pm

Blitzkrieg_Beetle wrote:Those Magirus Deutz engines are bulletproof!

Only if you leave the armour plate on.

vader · Post by **vader** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:00 pm

On the N2 Next to the Subaru dealership in Sumerset West in the Cape you will see a range of Samil 20's and a few Unimogs for sale! When i was in the Mag I was a duty driver and a Ratel driver. The Samil 20 is an awsume "little" go any where, do any thing, f#Ck around vehicle! With x 4x4 diff lock that will take you over most sand dunes in Nam. Except of cause Dune7! Which I did try but got bogged down 1/4 way up! had to get a Ratel to pull me out!

Look at buying a Samil 20 as you can still get spares for them and Duetz Diesel Power can service them! 103mm pistons makes for loads of "trek graag!" They are fun to drive, have a soft top and will do 130Km/h.

They have a huge load bay and come in a stone chip brown!

with enough ground clearance to clear any BlikMetWeile!

Post by **Pine** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:52 pm

Yeah, tough little buggers! The smell of the diesel fumes of a Samil 20 is unique in the world. These pics bring back fond jaag-kak-aan memories of my own days in the 'Force'

SAMIL is an abbreviation for South-African Military. It is a name given to a series of trucks specially designed for the South African army. They are put into weight categories and get the subsequent number behind their names. So we can find the 20, 50 and 100 series. The 20 is the smallest of them all with a load capacity of 2 tonnes.

Construction ran from 1976 till 1991 but the truck came in full service during the border conflict with Namibia in 1980. It still serves with the SANDF (South African National Defence Force)

Their structure can be called rather simple: chassis and cab always stay the same. The rest is added as needed. The Samil 20 can be found as troop carrier, commando, shelter, water truck and even as a weapons platform for a 20mm AA or Milan AT system.

Samils are not mine-protected although some were adapted for it in later stages.

SAMIL 20 Specifications

Drive
Permanent 4x4
Engine
Deutz F6L913
6 cylinder in-line, air cooled
6128 cc
93Kw @ 2650 rpm
Gearbox
ZF S5-35
5 Fwd Speeds (Synchro)
Transfer Box
ZF Z65
High & Low ranges
Differential Lock
Axles
Portal Type
Differential Lock (Ft & Rr).
Wheels & Tyre
Single wheel all-round
14.50 x 20?
Steering
Power Assisted
Brakes
Dual hydraulic / air system
Exhaust Brake
Suspension
Leaf Springs
Shock absorbers front & rear